07-13-2022, 10:53 AM
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#61
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Don't be shocked if Lazar and Stecher end up Canucks tomorrow.
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Half right ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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07-13-2022, 11:22 AM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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I know that the Flames lost their best winger, But I think they need to target a top 6 center more than anything. Backlund, nor Monahan are a good fit there any more.
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07-13-2022, 11:24 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
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Is OP going to be updated?
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07-13-2022, 11:26 AM
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#64
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Top 25 forwards updated:
1. Johnny Gaudreau (CGY)
2. Nazem Kadri (COL)
3. Claude Giroux (FLA) - Ottawa
4. Evgeni Malkin (PIT) — Pittsburgh
5. Patrice Bergeron (BOS)
6. Evander Kane (EDM) — Edmonton
7. Vincent Trocheck (CAR) - NY Rangers
8. Ondrej Palat (TB)
9. David Perron (STL)
10. Andre Burakovsky (COL)
11. Mason Marchment (FLA) - Dallas
12. Nino Niederreiter (CAR)
13. Dylan Strome (CHI)
14. Ryan Strome (NYR)
15. Reilly Smith (VGK)
16. Andrew Copp (NYR) - Detroit
17. Ilya Mikheyev (TOR) - Vancouver
18. Max Domi (CAR) - Chicago
19. Paul Stastny (WPG)
20. Phil Kessel (AZ)
21. Andreas Athanasiou (LA) - Chicago
22. Dominik Kubalik (CHI)
23. Calle Jarnkrok (CGY)
24. Frank Vatrano (NYR) - Anaheim
25. Vladislav Namestnikov (DAL) - Tampa Bay
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07-13-2022, 11:37 AM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Dylan Strome
Nazem Kadri
Ryan Strome
are the Flames best options for a #2 center. In that order.
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07-13-2022, 11:38 AM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Dylan Strome - yuck
Nazem Kadri - $$$$
Ryan Strome - meh
I'd rather none of them.
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07-13-2022, 11:41 AM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icon
Dylan Strome - yuck
Nazem Kadri - $$$$
Ryan Strome - meh
I'd rather none of them.
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and do what? have Monahan and Backlund player 2nd line center? The Flames need a top 6 center badly.
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07-13-2022, 11:41 AM
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#68
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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What's the AAV that makes Kadri worthwhile?
$6-7M?
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07-13-2022, 11:42 AM
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#69
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
What's the AAV that makes Kadri worthwhile?
$7M?
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5.65 or less because of age and term he will want.
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07-13-2022, 11:42 AM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Oh Namestnikov would be a great add as well.
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07-13-2022, 11:43 AM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
and do what? have Monahan and Backlund player 2nd line center? The Flames need a top 6 center badly.
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Then trade Tkachuk for one.
Of your list, Kadri's the only upgrade but will have an enormous price tag.
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07-13-2022, 11:43 AM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Oh Namestnikov would be a great add as well.
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He signed with Tampa.
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07-13-2022, 11:43 AM
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#73
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
What's the AAV that makes Kadri worthwhile?
$7M?
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I would be more worried about term than AAV, right now the Flames can afford a large contract. Anything under 5 years would be OK. At 31 even that is a huge risk.
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07-13-2022, 11:44 AM
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#74
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Has Towel, Will Travel
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More like what’s the term that makes Kadri worthwhile. And I expect him to get 7 year term.
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07-13-2022, 11:46 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Where in the hell does Tampa find the money?! Lol.
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07-13-2022, 11:51 AM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icon
Then trade Tkachuk for one.
Of your list, Kadri's the only upgrade but will have an enormous price tag.
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I think you and I have a fundamental difference in opinion on what direction the Flames will / should take in the off season.
It will be interesting to read the "tank" vs compete debates this summer.
Fwiw, I think the Flames try and shore up the gap in the top 6. They have above average D, Goaltending, and coaching. They are also in a cycle where lot of young players will push for a spot in camp. I think this off season, the Flames try to make it work. Now, I am not going to pretend that I am right, or that I know best. But with two smart additions to the middle six, the Flames are a playoff team again.
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07-13-2022, 11:53 AM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I think you and I have a fundamental difference in opinion on what direction the Flames will / should take in the off season.
It will be interesting to read the "tank" vs compete debates this summer.
Fwiw, I think the Flames try and shore up the gap in the top 6. They have above average D, Goaltending, and coaching. They are also in a cycle where lot of young players will push for a spot in camp. I think this off season, the Flames try to make it work. Now, I am not going to pretend that I am right, or that I know best. But with two smart additions to the middle six, the Flames are a playoff team again.
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Yep, fair enough.
I just don't see how adding one of the Stromes or even Kadri keeps us at the same level or improves us over last year's roster. Sure Monahan & Backlund aren't the answer going forward, but don't think these guys are either, so just because they're the best options in free agency doesn't make them a good idea to me.
I doubt the Flames rebuild, but I doubt we sign a big fish too. Think we have a year or two of treading water ahead of us.
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07-13-2022, 11:57 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Icon
Yep, fair enough.
I just don't see how adding one of the Stromes or even Kadri keeps us at the same level or improves us over last year's roster. Sure Monahan & Backlund aren't the answer going forward, but don't think these guys are either, so just because they're the best options in free agency doesn't make them a good idea to me.
I doubt the Flames rebuild, but I doubt we sign a big fish too. Think we have a year or two of treading water ahead of us.
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Unfortunately the Flames will take the Minnesota approach. It is almost a guarantee. At least Dylan Strome adds some youth. I just don't want to see the Flames load of with age. Lets just hope that any of Mackey, Valimaki, Zary, Pelletier, or Coronato blow the doors off next fall .
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07-13-2022, 12:04 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
5.65 or less because of age and term he will want.
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That won’t be a bad AAV depending on term. He will most likely make more than that.
Rumor/discussion out there that the Avs might be trying to bring him back as well.
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07-13-2022, 12:40 PM
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#80
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Top 25 forwards updated:
Still some good names left:
1. Johnny Gaudreau (CGY)
2. Nazem Kadri (COL)
3. Claude Giroux (FLA) - Ottawa
4. Evgeni Malkin (PIT) — Pittsburgh
5. Patrice Bergeron (BOS)
6. Evander Kane (EDM) — Edmonton
7. Vincent Trocheck (CAR) - NY Rangers
8. Ondrej Palat (TB)
9. David Perron (STL) - Detroit
10. Andre Burakovsky (COL)
11. Mason Marchment (FLA) - Dallas
12. Nino Niederreiter (CAR)
13. Dylan Strome (CHI)
14. Ryan Strome (NYR)
15. Reilly Smith (VGK)
16. Andrew Copp (NYR) - Detroit
17. Ilya Mikheyev (TOR) - Vancouver
18. Max Domi (CAR) - Chicago
19. Paul Stastny (WPG)
20. Phil Kessel (AZ)
21. Andreas Athanasiou (LA) - Chicago
22. Dominik Kubalik (CHI)
23. Calle Jarnkrok (CGY)
24. Frank Vatrano (NYR) - Anaheim
25. Vladislav Namestnikov (DAL) - Tampa Bay
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