Rather than trying to belittle the OP and show how smart we are, perhaps we should use his words to get into a discussion like a comparison of the efficacy of various vaccines.
Just a suggestion
We’ve had 5000 pages of this already.
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So the covid vaccine is as effective as any other vaccine before it? To lump it in with all vaccines is as dumb as what you are accusing me of. You say im spreading misinformation but you say the covid vaccine is the same as all the others?
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It's as effective as any vaccine for a respiratory airborne virus that's been produced. Probably better than the flu vaccine that doesn't even target the correct virus some years. And for preventing death, it's very effective.
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So the covid vaccine is as effective as any other vaccine before it? To lump it in with all vaccines is as dumb as what you are accusing me of. You say im spreading misinformation but you say the covid vaccine is the same as all the others?
Rather than trying to belittle the OP and show how smart we are, perhaps we should use his words to get into a discussion like a comparison of the efficacy of various vaccines.
Just a suggestion
Because OP, and most anti-vax are probably (a)not gonna care and (b)not gonna read it.
The problem with disinformation is that lies are easy. Truth is hard. Bob posts that the earth is flat. I can invest hours into posting research, studies, expert analysis and all I am doing is wasting my time. Because tomorrow Bob is going to post that the earth is flat. All I did was take time away from important things I have to do. If I DO have time to waste online, I can think of 100 other things that are more productive than trying to talk to walls.
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It's as effective as it can be for the kind of virus it is targeted against. Some viruses evolve more quickly than others, which makes developing a vaccine more difficult. The COVID vaccine is like the influenza vaccine - it will likely need to undergo yearly tweaking to target contemporary variants in circulation. That is not a failure. That is biology.
It is a vaccine, just like all the rest.
Vaccines normally dont stop working after a couple months. You can find out what is put into the other vaccines. There is long term data on the effects of taking the other vaccines. What other vaccine has been created for a lab made virus?
Vaccines normally dont stop working after a couple months. You can find out what is put into the other vaccines. There is long term data on the effects of taking the other vaccines. What other vaccine has been created for a lab made virus?
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I'm cringing for you, over here. Yeesh.
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Vaccines normally dont stop working after a couple months. You can find out what is put into the other vaccines. There is long term data on the effects of taking the other vaccines. What other vaccine has been created for a lab made virus?
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Most vaccines aren't developed for novel viruses that were alien to human immune systems. It's actually a medical feat that they were able to make a vaccine as quickly as they did.
But anyway, boosters are common even quickly after the first dose. I had my hep vaccine and then had to get 2 boosters right after.
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You can find out what is put into the other vaccines.
This is the result of a 5 second google search "Covid Vaccine ingredients" - all on one handy page. And from almost a year ago, so this isn't new information. I mean...did you even TRY? I found over a dozen sources all listing the various ingredients.
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This is the result of a 5 second google search "Covid Vaccine ingredients" - all on one handy page. And from almost a year ago, so this isn't new information. I mean...did you even TRY? I found over a dozen sources all listing the various ingredients.
I think there are a number of factors, unique to covid, that are contributing to the slowness in many in society to get vaccinated, along with the extremes in reasoning in order to justify not taking the vaccine:
1. the unfamiliarity with the mRNA vaccine
2. the speed at which the vaccine was developed
3. the speed at which the vaccine was approved for use
4. the marked difference in the symptoms and mortality with age
5. the long period of time since we have had a world epidemic like covid
6. the ability of most people to get away with not having flu shots, with resultant buildup in the anti vax mentality
7. the freedom of social media to post almost anything one likes
8. reduced sense of community, and emphasis on rights without corresponding responsibility
I think there are a number of factors, unique to covid, that are contributing to the slowness in many in society to get vaccinated, along with the extremes in reasoning in order to justify not taking the vaccine:
1. the unfamiliarity with the mRNA vaccine
2. the speed at which the vaccine was developed
3. the speed at which the vaccine was approved for use
4. the marked difference in the symptoms and mortality with age
5. the long period of time since we have had a world epidemic like covid
6. the ability of most people to get away with not having flu shots, with resultant buildup in the anti vax mentality
7. the freedom of social media to post almost anything one likes
8. reduced sense of community, and emphasis on rights without corresponding responsibility
9. etc.
So the first 6 on the list are all very easy to find the information required to make the decision recommended by experts.
I think the biggest issue missing from the list is a distrust of expertise.
Vaccines normally dont stop working after a couple months. You can find out what is put into the other vaccines. There is long term data on the effects of taking the other vaccines. What other vaccine has been created for a lab made virus?
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Honest questions here.
(1) Where are you getting your information?
(2) If your information was demonstrably incorrect, would that change your point of view?
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It's as effective as any vaccine for a respiratory airborne virus that's been produced. Probably better than the flu vaccine that doesn't even target the correct virus some years. And for preventing death, it's very effective.
Because OP, and most anti-vax are probably (a)not gonna care and (b)not gonna read it.
The problem with disinformation is that lies are easy. Truth is hard. Bob posts that the earth is flat. I can invest hours into posting research, studies, expert analysis and all I am doing is wasting my time. Because tomorrow Bob is going to post that the earth is flat. All I did was take time away from important things I have to do. If I DO have time to waste online, I can think of 100 other things that are more productive than trying to talk to walls.
You know, one of my favorite movies of all time is Thank You For Smoking.
There's a scene where the main character points out to his son, sometimes you're not arguing to convince your conversation partner, sometimes it's for those listening.
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mRNA technology have been under research and development for decades. We're lucky as hell it was ready for its moment to shine when COVID hit. It is now also being used to develop protection against HIV, which would be incredible.
Remember, the COVID-19 pandemic spurred manufacturers to develop dozens of potential vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 and brought tremendous increases in funding. Some of those vaccines used traditional methods involving adenovirus as the spike protein delivery system—such as the Johnson & Johnson vector vaccine.
Thanks to decades of research and innovation, mRNA vaccine technology was ready. With COVID, this technology got its moment and has proven to be extremely safe and effective. Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine is the first mRNA product to achieve full FDA approval in the U.S.
Once again, science wins (like it always does and always will).
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This is the result of a 5 second google search "Covid Vaccine ingredients" - all on one handy page. And from almost a year ago, so this isn't new information. I mean...did you even TRY? I found over a dozen sources all listing the various ingredients.
Im claiming they dont come in the box listed like every other medication produced to a pharmacy. Your telling me that data from a year ago you posted applies to your boosters?
