Darryl Sutter for Jack Adams

[KamFongAsChinHo]

I agree it's a wee bit early for this. Given Sutter's post game interviews, I would be satisfied if he was nominated for the Patch Adams award.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CSharp

Oh yeah, seems like all who's received the Jack Adams trophy will likely get fired afterwards. So, if Sutter gets this award 10 games into the season, will he be fired midway through the season, especially if the Flames do getting into a slump?

You want a head coach that's a perennial nominee, not the winner. The winner is usually the coach that got a mediocre team to overachieve which means the following season things come back to earth if everything doesn't go right.

[djsFlames]

Darryl would just use it as a back scratcher.

That's about exactly as much value it would have to him.

[Inglewood Jack]

[Hack&Lube]

Darryl Sutter is so good that he babysat Dallas Eakins into becoming a good NHL coach.

I definitely raised my eyebrows awhile back when the Ducks hired Darryl to coach their coach on how to be a coach but somehow the dots appear to be connecting now.

[Strange Brew]

There wasn't an NHL team that needed a coach with pedigree more than this one. It has been a fragile team that loses confidence when things get tough. A coach who has won before really helps with that.

The rest of this season should be really fun to watch.

[OptimalTates]

Forget winning it this year, if they don't rename it the Darryl Sutter Trophy I say we riot!

[Gaskal]

That one Bruins fan had a point, he does look like Sam the Eagle lol.
Would be a perfect Halloween costume.

[calculoso]

Nice Pierre LeBrun article in the Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/2971892/2021...shared_article

He has info from Buffalo and Boston coaches, a lengthy quote from Hitchcock, and some valuable insight from Suttet himself

Plus this info: (bold emphasis added by me)

What has been a consistent trademark of Sutter’s NHL coaching stops is the ability to adapt to changes in the game. Like many NHL coaches who step away from the game between gigs, using that time to watch the game neutrally and update some systematic thoughts is an important thing to be able to do. The time off before coming back is something Sutter benefitted from again.

“Yup, I would say 100 percent,’’ Sutter said. “And then also, what helped a lot was just being able to, because I had talked to the Flames off and on for over a year, just to be able to watch them. I just watched them as a fan. And then when you compare them to the way it was in the division and see how they were going to have to play to stack up … that was probably just as important.’’

Why? Because Sutter felt he saw changes in how the game was being played now.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Nice Pierre LeBrun article in the Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/2971892/2021...shared_article

He has info from Buffalo and Boston coaches, a lengthy quote from Hitchcock, and some valuable insight from Suttet himself

Plus this info: (bold emphasis added by me)

Thanks for posting that. Good to see some recognition outside of the local media.

At the risk of oversharing an article that is behind a paywall (only $1 a month special right now -- go sign up, it's worth it!), I liked the quote from Ken Hitchcock (I only provided the latter half):

“He has a clear understanding of no matter what your talent level is, what has to take place for a team to have long-term and continued success on a weekly, monthly basis,” continued Hitchcock. “Winning hockey is checking. Winning hockey isn’t defence. Anybody can play defence, that just means you’re mirroring people. Checking means you’re playing through people. That’s what his team does, they play right through you.’’

[Inglewood Jack]

Sutter's dropped not too subtle hints about what he thinks of the previous coaching staff before, and again mentions that it turned out to be a bigger mess to cleanup than he anticipated:

“We had identified what some of the issues were, and changes that we felt we had to make whether it was systemic or personnel-wise, but you just couldn’t do it the way the regular season was last year. You could work on fitness or that sort of thing, or make tweaks in the system, but until you the personnel to fit it and the guys to get their proper training in, in the summer, those two things are the difference.

“It’s not real complicated,’’ added Sutter. “It’s just coming in (last year), it was more than I thought that we would have to do. And it’s still a lot of work.’’

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Nice Pierre LeBrun article in the Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/2971892/2021...shared_article

He has info from Buffalo and Boston coaches, a lengthy quote from Hitchcock, and some valuable insight from Suttet himself

Plus this info: (bold emphasis added by me)

Pretty much confirms that Treliving was after Sutter after Peters was released/resigned, and that it was Sutter that decided not to take the gig in the off season, which hand cuffed BT a bit and likely forced him to stick with Ward.

Nothing to do with ownership intervening and making BT hire Sutter, it was all about timing which should surprise no one. When he was first approached, DS was living on the farm in the middle of COVID going bananas and no vaccine available. Living with Chris who would be ultra susceptible to a bad outcome should he contract the virus, DS waited until it was relatively safe enough to accept.

Here we are now.

[jlh2640]

Let’s wait and see

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Pretty much confirms that Treliving was after Sutter after Peters was released/resigned, and that it was Sutter that decided not to take the gig in the off season, which hand cuffed BT a bit and likely forced him to stick with Ward.

Nothing to do with ownership intervening and making BT hire Sutter, it was all about timing which should surprise no one. When he was first approached, DS was living on the farm in the middle of COVID going bananas and no vaccine available. Living with Chris who would be ultra susceptible to a bad outcome should he contract the virus, DS waited until it was relatively safe enough to accept.

Here we are now.

The article doesn't "confirm" this at all lol, but whatever. Seems like an unimportant thing to dwell on.

Interesting, Sutter throws a bit of shade Johnny and Chucky's way at the end of the article in terms of the team still missing "that kind of player", when the kind of player he was talking about was a strong attacking forward with dominant puck skills.

[GioforPM]

I think the article goes a long way to confirming that there was interest in Sutter pre-Ward hiring. And I’m not sure him saying the fact there was more work than he thought was a comment on coaching versus the players. Especially since he mentioned “getting the personnel”.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Nice Pierre LeBrun article in the Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/2971892/2021...shared_article

He has info from Buffalo and Boston coaches, a lengthy quote from Hitchcock, and some valuable insight from Suttet himself

Plus this info: (bold emphasis added by me)

I wonder how many remotes he smashed watching our buttersoft wimpy ass team get pummeled every night?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

The article doesn't "confirm" this at all lol, but whatever. Seems like an unimportant thing to dwell on.

Interesting, Sutter throws a bit of shade Johnny and Chucky's way at the end of the article in terms of the team still missing "that kind of player", when the kind of player he was talking about was a strong attacking forward with dominant puck skills.

How is that shade when the both of them will never be that kind of player?

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

The article doesn't "confirm" this at all lol, but whatever. Seems like an unimportant thing to dwell on.

Interesting, Sutter throws a bit of shade Johnny and Chucky's way at the end of the article in terms of the team still missing "that kind of player", when the kind of player he was talking about was a strong attacking forward with dominant puck skills.

Confirms more than you think.

Some feel the Flames ownership group stepped in and hired Sutter without Treliving involved. That it was a season saving desperation move.

Treliving still working already puts most of that to bed, but this does the rest.

Sutter saying over a year puts the discussion back to at least March of 2020 when Ward had the interim tag, and likely a few months before that as he said over a year which would put Sutter in conversation to fill in for Peters.

Since Peters was coming off a 1st in the West season it would seem odd to have your GM out of the loop in bringing in a new coach around that time.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

How is that shade when the both of them will never be that kind of player?

Yeah if there's a line between superstar or generational player and star player both guys are on this side of it.

No shade in that.

They're not McDavid, McKinnon or Matthews.

[genetic_phreek]

Not sure where to post this but nice to get some love from TSN.

https://www.tsn.ca/video/who-s-the-b...lberta~2328074