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Old 10-27-2021, 04:30 PM   #61
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Ugh - Duncan Keith denying everything.
Yes? And no?

On the one hand he says "I didn't know anything about it." On the other hand, he also said, "my whole focus was right in the moment: doing what we had to do as a team; as a group...our focus was trying to win hockey games."

Keith's response actually sounds much like how Quenneville is purported to have responded in the moment.

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Old 10-27-2021, 04:31 PM   #62
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Have to believe that Bettman is going to tell JQ and KC the to resign… if they don’t, he’ll have to fire them/make their owners fire them. The league will want to make a huge effort to create a support system and a system for preventing this from ever happening again. They could not really have any credibility in that effort if guys that were part of the cover-up are still employed in the NHL.


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Old 10-27-2021, 04:31 PM   #63
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Don Fehr should be gone immediately. What the hell is the point of the players association if you fail catastrophically at the most basic protection of a player's human rights? Absolutely despicable leadership from both the Hawks and the PA.
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Old 10-27-2021, 04:31 PM   #64
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This definitely played a big role in derailing Kyle’s NHL dreams. Disgusting.
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James Gary was employed with the Hawks until the end of last season and allowed to retire on his terms. That is just shameful and I think people need to be talking about him more and his role.
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Incredibly brave. Awful, but important to watch.

I don't know how the leaders of that team can't now at least come forward with an apology and show some sincere remorse.
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After watching that, I don't know how a single person on staff can have a job. Torchetti and Vincent were the only two that did anything. Gary, who comes off in the report like having been the one to bring it up to the executive, told Beach it was his fault.

And I don't know how a single player in that locker room can have an excuse now. Every player who called Beach a f***** should be exposed. Every player who let that happen should be exposed.

#### that whole team, honestly.
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Such an amazing interview. Massive props to him. Didn't beach and Ferland fight all the time in the minors?
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Old 10-27-2021, 04:36 PM   #69
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Hawks should get first round picks forfeited as well
Who does that punish? Their fans?

Punish the individuals actually involved
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Old 10-27-2021, 04:39 PM   #70
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Yes? And no?

On the one hand he says "I didn't know anything about it." On the other hand, he also said, "my whole focus was right in the moment: doing what we had to do as a team; as a group...our focus was trying to win hockey games."

Keith's response actually sounds much like how Quenneville is purported to have responded in the moment.

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He may not have known. But it seems like everyone no longer in the NHL knew and everyone who still is playing or coaching did. Convenient.
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He may not have known. But it seems like everyone no longer in the NHL knew and everyone who still is playing or coaching did. Convenient.
It really seems like he's arguing semantics.

Paraphrasing: "I didn't know about it, but I know about people that did know."

Really makes it seem like he didn't know precisely, but knew something.
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Quenville even today calling this a "distraction", no accountability, no remorse, no compassion. I think him lying about knowing what happened definitely increases his culpability and is enough to question whether he deserves to continue to coach in this league or ever again.
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Kyle Beach is a hero.

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Old 10-27-2021, 04:47 PM   #74
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Disgusting behaviour by so many people in positions of power.

Having his teammates either turn a blind eye, or outright bully him for it as well... jesus christ.
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Don't forget that Kyle Beach also played for the Bill Peters led Rockford Icehogs too, what an utterly rotten organization the Hawks were, from top to bottom. This poor dude has seen horrible abuse and toxicity his entire career because nobody at the top cared to act on anything.

I admire his strength to come out with all this info, plus his determination to keep his hockey career going despite all he's been through.
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As a parent of two boys I just cannot imagine if it were my "babies" having gone through something like this (and it would be EXACTLY the same if they were two girls). Just made me weep.
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Strip the cup win from them. Strike out the names. Take down the banner and remove anyone involved from the NHL.
Disgusting.
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The denial from Quenville and Keith sound pretty hollow after watching this. What has Toews said about this?
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The NHL teams cancelled their games in support of the BLM movement, I think the big names in the league need to push for a league wide protest ASAP.

Pause and reflect and out every single one of these bastards.

This is just unbelievable.
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Quenville even today calling this a "distraction", no accountability, no remorse, no compassion. I think him lying about knowing what happened definitely increases his culpability and is enough to question whether he deserves to continue to coach in this league or ever again.
He called this a "distraction"? Holy eff
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