the City Watch stuff isn't a problem, they've already been established as morally bankrupt goons that will do anything for a paycheque including daggering babies.
the Tourney participant list seems to be mostly sons and firstborns of Westerosi lords. they probably accept the risk that something will go wrong and they could accidentally take a lance splinter to the throat, but it's almost as if they took the Mountain's exceptional bloodlust from his tourney and just applied it to everyone. I don't think Great Houses would be that ok with their heirs entering a death battle royale, particularly to celebrate the birth of a future king in a time of relative peace.
The entire first episode was about the importance of male heirs. Then they have a tournament where the male heirs of the most important houses are taking each other out for no good reason.
And fair enough. The fans certainly didn't seem to see this as unusual. Though the one that might make people upset was the deliberate attack on a horse. You can probably kill a man no problem, but a horse is a valuable asset, and probably not seen as being properly British to attack a horse.
I would assume that these tournaments were no different then the Roman games, in that you placate the population with loud and bloody and deadly combat.
Plus it was probably seen as better to have a one on one war between families in the tournament then a destructive war outside of the tournament.
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Thought the first episode was great. I wasn't disinterested in this.. but I also wasn't really paying attention. Really sucked me into the story though. Looking forward to following the series.
I'm not worried at all about Andor, as long as they can stick the landing with LOTR on the 2nd we've got four really good shows to watch this fall.
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The entire first episode was about the importance of male heirs. Then they have a tournament where the male heirs of the most important houses are taking each other out for no good reason.
I really hope they come back to this and explain it better. It's not like someone got unlucky, they were deliberate and brutal murders in full view of the crowd. There should have been nobles brawling in the stands and calls to war. All it took in the original GoT was for Catelyn to arrest Tyrion.
I really hope they come back to this and explain it better. It's not like someone got unlucky, they were deliberate and brutal murders in full view of the crowd. There should have been nobles brawling in the stands and calls to war. All it took in the original GoT was for Catelyn to arrest Tyrion.
This is actually a good point that took me by surprise... only thing I could think of, were those lesser knights that were fighting in the more brutal fights?
Everything moved fast I couldn't tell details on armor or what not. Were the main 8-10 lords sons doing the jousting, then they brought in the lower nobility to 'brawl'?
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Yeah I just assumed all the brutality was Undercard stuff.
It sounded like this was the first high-profile tourney in a long time, getting on the lists would have been very competitive. Unless they reserved a few spots for cannon fodder, but in the GoT it's very rare for the lower classes to be allowed to fight like that with the high-born. There's a lot they need to explain here, but I'm pretty sure it boils down to producers demanding excess violence in the first episode, even if does a lot to erode all the previous world-building.
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There's a lot they need to explain here, but I'm pretty sure it boils down to producers demanding excess violence in the first episode, even if does a lot to erode all the previous world-building.
Yeah, that seems to be the approach HotD will be using - complex intrigue and drama juiced up with sex and ultra-violence for the punters. Which is a similar approach that GoT itself took, but dialled up even more.
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I really hope they come back to this and explain it better. It's not like someone got unlucky, they were deliberate and brutal murders in full view of the crowd. There should have been nobles brawling in the stands and calls to war. All it took in the original GoT was for Catelyn to arrest Tyrion.
The entire universe, thus far, seems to be motivated by grudges. In GoT it seemed like every character was more concerned with revenge than actually accomplishing anything. People wanted to get into powerful positions just to enact revenge.
Just going through some wikis on the internet, it does look like "melees" were quite common:
It was still kind of a big deal when someone died in a melee, particularly a highborn person. Some Melee were especially bloody, like the ones that resulted in people getting chosen for the King's Guard. This was probably so, as you had a bunch of low born people fighting for the chance to have a prestigious position. In this one two people died over the course of a week, and it was considered one of the most bloody ever:
Not sure it's been mentioned, but words been out since June that Kit Harrington is spearheading a GOT sequel spinoff based around Jon Snow. He came up with an idea and discussed it with George, and has brought in his own writers and people for it allegedly. Sounds like it's in the works, although not yet officially announced by HBO.
With these scenes describing the prince that was promised/song of ice and fire (Jon) in this show, you wonder of some of that is setting the stage for that series and Snow's eventual fate. Since Arya was the one that vanquished the white walkers, you wonder if there's another northern/winter threat meant for Jon to fulfill that prophecy/dream.
Maybe Johnny is coming for his throne after all (and to right some of the wrongs of S8).
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Loved the new GOT style intro. Still rolling with one of the greatest themes ever. That was like comfort food.
Pretty good episode to set the chess pieces. But interesting that we're proceeding with the travel times of the later GOT seasons. The trip to Dragonstone and back sure was quick. Like they walked from one set room to another...
Daemon was way more restrained than I was expecting here. Man, #### is going to hit the fan when these characters hit a breaking point, isn't it.
Well I like Daemon more than Hightower so far and it's not even close.
Awkward times for Rhaenyra and her BFF. Too bad there aren't some re-marriage prospects around that aren't alarmingly underage.
Loved the new GOT style intro. Still rolling with one of the greatest themes ever. That was like comfort food.
Pretty good episode to set the chess pieces. But interesting that we're proceeding with the travel times of the later GOT seasons. The trip to Dragonstone and back sure was quick. Like they walked from one set room to another...
Daemon was way more restrained than I was expecting here. Man, #### is going to hit the fan when these characters hit a breaking point, isn't it.
Well I like Daemon more than Hightower so far and it's not even close.
Awkward times for Rhaenyra and her BFF. Too bad there aren't some re-marriage prospects around that aren't alarmingly underage.
On the travel times thing, the series is skipping time a lot
They mentioned at the start of this episode it had been 6 months since daemon left
I read in one of preview articles they mentioned time skips were going to be common
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