09-29-2021, 12:15 PM
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#62
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdubz
Is it sad that this expansion team's D looks much better than ours?
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while I guess we can debate whether this is true or not, in a way this should not be a surprise- I'm of the opinion that the one thing the Vegas/Seattle expansion format allowed for is depth on defence. due to the expansion parameters there is really no reason for an expansion team to have to have any '3rd pairing' type dmen- they get the pick for the most part of number 4s at worst (and in Gio and or other contract/age type situations even better)
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09-29-2021, 12:20 PM
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#63
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Everywhere? not just in this thread either.
Its already being called a terrible pickup and people want him in the bottom pair. A guy who has dominated NHL playoff series for a top team apparently isn't good enough for the Flames top four.
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So why drag it into this thread?
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09-29-2021, 12:20 PM
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#64
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by looooob
while I guess we can debate whether this is true or not, in a way this should not be a surprise- I'm of the opinion that the one thing the Vegas/Seattle expansion format allowed for is depth on defence. due to the expansion parameters there is really no reason for an expansion team to have to have any '3rd pairing' type dmen- they get the pick for the most part of number 4s at worst (and in Gio and or other contract/age type situations even better)
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Lots of teams wouldn't have a true #4 available though because of an expiring contract or lack of depth.
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09-29-2021, 12:20 PM
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#65
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Is Seattle's defence even that much better? I concede that it is probably better, but it sure does not rise to the level of surprise and sadness expressed by mdubz.
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Agreed.
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09-29-2021, 12:21 PM
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#66
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
So why drag it into this thread?
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I said not just in this thread...there is plenty of complaining about Zadorov and the D in this thread if you have eyes.
Zadorov who was better than any of the Flames D in a recent playoff series
So Seattle has better D now? which team will allow less goals?
I am pretty confident the Flames will allow less this season
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09-29-2021, 12:23 PM
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#67
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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09-29-2021, 12:25 PM
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#68
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdubz
Is it sad that this expansion team's D looks much better than ours?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Is Seattle's defence even that much better? I concede that it is probably better, but it sure does not rise to the level of surprise and sadness expressed by mdubz.
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I’d expect a guy who chooses such a handle to be markedly better at reading comprehension
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09-29-2021, 12:25 PM
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#69
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Gio win the Krakken fitness testing this season?? Perrenial winner here, he's an ageless mutant.
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09-29-2021, 12:27 PM
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#70
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Everywhere? not just in this thread either.
Its already being called a terrible pickup and people want him in the bottom pair. A guy who has dominated NHL playoff series for a top team apparently isn't good enough for the Flames top four.
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When did Zadorov dominate an NHL playoff series? Exaggerating his play isn't helping either. He was ok against a Flames team who couldn't do much, and it wasn't because of Zadorov.
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09-29-2021, 12:31 PM
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#71
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
When did Zadorov dominate an NHL playoff series? Exaggerating his play isn't helping either. He was ok against a Flames team who couldn't do much, and it wasn't because of Zadorov.
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He wasn't even the best defenseman on his pair, Ian Cole was. Zadorov was just more "noticable".
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09-29-2021, 12:53 PM
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#72
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First Line Centre
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I like Tkachuk - Lindholm - Coleman
Let Tkachuk and Gaudreau both play LW. Mangiapane can play where ever he is needed
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09-29-2021, 01:05 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
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Just another bleak day in the “storied” history of this franchise.
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09-29-2021, 01:05 PM
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#74
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightslayer
When did Zadorov dominate an NHL playoff series? Exaggerating his play isn't helping either. He was ok against a Flames team who couldn't do much, and it wasn't because of Zadorov.
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I felt he dominated the Flames...said it at the time too
He was better than any Flames dmen including Gio who was having his best season
Flames couldn't do much partly because of Zadorov pounding them every time they touched the puck...more than okay IMO
We will see, I got mocked for saying similar about Tanev last offseason
I think some of you also forget that Zadorov is 26 and not 36, still young for a dman
Last edited by dino7c; 09-29-2021 at 01:12 PM.
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09-29-2021, 01:09 PM
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#75
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heep223
I remember saying this exact thing about Vegas 
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Yes. The collective opinion about the futures of an expansion team being wrong once means that every collective opinion about an expansion team is now wrong.
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09-29-2021, 01:12 PM
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#77
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
I’d expect a guy who chooses such a handle to be markedly better at reading comprehension
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I expect virtually nothing of quality or substance from you.
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09-29-2021, 01:15 PM
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#78
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Two things that VGK entered their inaugural season with that Seattle does not have: 1) a quality, high-end NHL coach; 2) a first-ballot Hall of Fame goaltender.
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09-29-2021, 01:18 PM
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#79
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In the Sin Bin
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Vegas made some really good side deals too...Seattle priced everything too high and came away empty handed
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09-29-2021, 01:21 PM
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#80
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https://www.nhl.com/news/mark-giorda...mp/c-326326604
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SEATTLE -- Mark Giordano was the first player on the ice when the Seattle Kraken opened their inaugural training camp Thursday, and when practice ended with a bag skate, guess who led his teammates?
Giordano, the defenseman who turns 38 on Oct. 3, the oldest player on the roster.
It did not go unnoticed.
It inspired the leader of the organization, Kraken president and CEO Tod Leiweke, who ran up to Giordano as he came off the ice to give him a hug and a pat on the back.
"Just awesome to see him out there skating that hard, man," Leiweke said afterward. "I'm going to go work hard at my desk now."
Giordano has seemed an obvious candidate to become the first captain of the Kraken since they selected him in the 2021 NHL Expansion Draft on July 21. He was captain of the Calgary Flames the past eight seasons and won the Mark Messier NHL Leadership Award in 2019-20.
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