[News] Jack Eichel Vs. The Buffalo Sabres

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

You must be very old.

Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk

Turn 40 this year.

Truth be told your age shows a lot in the way you post.

[Matty81]

Even though there is minimal reliable info out there... I want to believe it is down to ducks vs flames and this bad pr and threats by the eichel camp not to report will encourage Buffalo to move off their ridiculous asks and make a damned move ha.

[MrMike]

They’re waiting for Anahiem to add one of their top prospects. I don’t think they will.

Can’t see LA still being in with their free agent signings

Minnesota can’t possibly afford Eichel Kaprizov and 14 million in buyouts next season can they?

Vegas would have to pull off a Miracle moving cap back and getting futures to flip in the deal to beat what we can.

Seattle doesn’t have the assets/won’t give up their first round picks this soon

San Jose.. hahaha
Arizona.. rebuilding/tanking

Can’t see St Louis or Chicago having a better deal than us.
Avalanche are stacked and capped.
Edmonton/Vancouver no chance
Nashville already has 17 million in centers can’t see them going for it
Dallas - Don’t really know anything about them.

[GioforPM]

If I’m the Sabres I want this issue off my plate asap.

[Poison]

Apologies if asked or answered already but have interested teams been able to access his medical records?
Is this an "as is" sale to this point or is other teams full in the know?
What if what Eichel and his camp are proposing to do surgery wise isnt the right way of going about it. Im really confused as to why a team would be causing such a full blown issue with a superstar who (i think) is wanting the quickest recovery and apparently the best way to solve the injury.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

So if Eichel gets the surgery, will he even play next season?

Lol that is the point of this thread...they say yes at the start of the season

[Goriders]

Seems like a lot of drama

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Poison

Apologies if asked or answered already but have interested teams been able to access his medical records?
Is this an "as is" sale to this point or is other teams full in the know?
What if what Eichel and his camp are proposing to do surgery wise isnt the right way of going about it. Im really confused as to why a team would be causing such a full blown issue with a superstar who (i think) is wanting the quickest recovery and apparently the best way to solve the injury.

I won’t bother looking for it, but it was reported that Buffalo was not letting any team have access until they have an offer on the table they are willing to accept. That to me suggests that they know the other teams won’t like what they see.

[2macinnis2]

A lot to digest and comment on here. I’ll start with this: I’m a neurosurgeon who does both cervical disc replacement and cervical fusion (and posterior cervical decompressions). I think it is VERY aggressive to consider return to play professional hockey in less than 3 months from the time of any of those surgeries. Just my humble opinion.

I’m very in favor of adding a talent like Eichel. But if the medical information they’re passing along in this statement is an indication of their general mindset, this guy may be out to lunch.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I won’t bother looking for it, but it was reported that Buffalo was not letting any team have access until they have an offer on the table they are willing to accept. That to me suggests that they know the other teams won’t like what they see.

Great. They're selling a pig in a poke.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Not just EC, but in the same state! That's like trading Gaudreau to ENG.

Not exactly. The Sabres and Rangers aren't in the same Division, so there's much less chance that trading him to the Rangers would have any significant consequences for the Sabres.

It would really only be an issue if they met in the playoffs and Eichel dominated over the Sabres or if the Rangers beat out the Sabres for a playoff spot (which, under the current playoff format, could only happen for a wild card spot). As long as the Division-heavy playoff structure remains, there's a very low likelihood of the Sabres and Rangers meeting in the playoffs over the next five seasons (the remainder of Eichel's contract).


Also, regardless of what the Sabres want, once Eichel is gone, there's no guarantee that the western team who acquires him couldn't just flip him to an eastern team anyway.

That happened when the Senators traded Hoffman to San Jose because they didn't want to trade him to an Eastern Conference team, then the Sharks immediately turned around and flipped him to Florida -- which put him back in the Senators' Division.

[Poison]

Originally Posted by 2macinnis2

A lot to digest and comment on here. I’ll start with this: I’m a neurosurgeon who does both cervical disc replacement and cervical fusion (and posterior cervical decompressions). I think it is VERY aggressive to consider return to play professional hockey in less than 3 months from the time of any of those surgeries. Just my humble opinion.

I’m very in favor of adding a talent like Eichel. But if the medical information they’re passing along in this statement is an indication of their general mindset, this guy may be out to lunch.

So if thats the case and this is a very major problem and sounding like career threatening why are the sabres trying to cover up and sell damage goods.
They wouldnt get away with it anyway and are wasting everyones time.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by 2macinnis2

A lot to digest and comment on here. I’ll start with this: I’m a neurosurgeon who does both cervical disc replacement and cervical fusion (and posterior cervical decompressions). I think it is VERY aggressive to consider return to play professional hockey in less than 3 months from the time of any of those surgeries. Just my humble opinion.

I’m very in favor of adding a talent like Eichel. But if the medical information they’re passing along in this statement is an indication of their general mindset, this guy may be out to lunch.

Recovery time aside, what do you say about disc replacement at all (for an athlete).

[Monahammer]

Re: surgery

Not an expert, but from what I've read the spinal fusion is a guarantee of future problems/pain just muted and manageable. The replacement could end up back to 100% function or maybe not. Is the maybe not in this scenario worse than the guaranteed result of spinal fusion?
Frankly I can see why eichel wants to go with the replacement.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by 2macinnis2

A lot to digest and comment on here. I’ll start with this: I’m a neurosurgeon who does both cervical disc replacement and cervical fusion (and posterior cervical decompressions). I think it is VERY aggressive to consider return to play professional hockey in less than 3 months from the time of any of those surgeries. Just my humble opinion.

I’m very in favor of adding a talent like Eichel. But if the medical information they’re passing along in this statement is an indication of their general mindset, this guy may be out to lunch.

Sound like a game of brinkmanship.

After any trade, reality hits and all of the sudden the acquiring team is looking at much longer recovery time.

[2macinnis2]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Sound like a game of brinkmanship.

After any trade, reality hits and all of the sudden the acquiring team is looking at much longer recovery time.

Yes, I would hope that’s the case.

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

The Wizard hasn't been seen for some time... would be fitting that he returns to us with an Eichel trade.

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by 2macinnis2

A lot to digest and comment on here. I’ll start with this: I’m a neurosurgeon who does both cervical disc replacement and cervical fusion (and posterior cervical decompressions). I think it is VERY aggressive to consider return to play professional hockey in less than 3 months from the time of any of those surgeries. Just my humble opinion.

I’m very in favor of adding a talent like Eichel. But if the medical information they’re passing along in this statement is an indication of their general mindset, this guy may be out to lunch.

Obviously it's just simply reading into a tweet, but to me, it screams much more of trying to add pressure to get a deal done and when it comes to light that indeed he can't go for the start of the season, they'll say look, we mentioned "medical clearance."

Thanks for the insight though.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by 2macinnis2

Yes, I would hope that’s the case.

And likely a shortened career.

[Sandman]

I've been a huge proponent of getting Eichel here, but I'm getting more and more worried about this surgery. I wonder if he'll be the same player, regardless of what surgery he gets.