[Signing] Oilers sign Hyman (7yrs, $5.5 mil AAV)

[Vinny01]

It is hilarious that the entry draft isn’t until tomorrow and the Oilers have brined through 10-11M in their cap space on Keith and Hyman. Talk about money burning a hole in his pocket.

[Enoch Root]

I don't see Holland as desperate, I see him as having a 4 year window, under McDavid's current contract.

Hyman is a really good player, and exactly what they need. Adding term, in order to keep his cap hit from being insane, is a great move - the later years are a problem for the later years.

I think this is probably the best move Holland has made in Edmonton and I wish the Flames had grabbed him. The problem is that the Flames are not in the same win-now window that the Oilers are, and it would not be a good move for the Flames to commit to a contract like this.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by stang

Capfriendly is a little misleading, because it has Alex stalock, broberg, lagesson and Klefbom on the roster. Once Klefbom goes LTIR and those other guys get moved down, there’s quite a bit of room still, and that’s without buying anyone out.

Not really. Without buying out players the Oilers are pretty much screwed as you have to account for your RFAs.

Hyman ($5.5M)-McHobo ($12.5M)-Yamamoto ($2M)
The Tenderness ($5.125M)-German Gretzky ($8.5M)-Pull My RV ($1.175M)
Shore ($850K)-Turris ($$1.65M)-Neal ($5.75M)
McLeod ($835K)-Jar Jar Binks ($1.5M)-Kassian ($3.2M)
Archibald ($1.5M)

Nurse ($5.6M)-Barrie ($5M)
Keith ($5.54M)-Bear ($2M)
Russell ($1.2M)-Bouchard ($833K)
Broberg ($864K)

Koskinen ($4.5M)
Smith ($2M)

Cap hit: $80.619M
Cap space: $881K

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The Oilers have such a bizarre way of going about things. On a team that has a very good offense with no D or solid goaltending they spend big money to address the offense.

Kinda like signing defensive liability Tyson Barrie for his PP prowess on a team that doesn’t need help on the PP but stinks defensively.

[transplant99]

I would think that Neal and Koskinen will be bought out now.

[Scorch]

Wait... there’s a NMC for this signing too?
HAHAHHAHA

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418196333782093833

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I don't see Holland as desperate, I see him as having a 4 year window, under McDavid's current contract.

Hyman is a really good player, and exactly what they need. Adding term, in order to keep his cap hit from being insane, is a great move - the later years are a problem for the later years.

I think this is probably the best move Holland has made in Edmonton and I wish the Flames had grabbed him. The problem is that the Flames are not in the same win-now window that the Oilers are, and it would not be a good move for the Flames to commit to a contract like this.

I fail to see how the Flames are not in win now mode? They brought a coach out of retirement to try and win.

I think this is a terrible move and the optics will crush it just like the Lucic deal. Hyman is coming in now with the weight of this deal on his shoulders and a fanbase that is at best 50% skeptical about this deal already. If he stumbles they will be frothing at the mouth about Hyman being a bad deal. It is exactly what happened to Lucic.

I see Oiler fans saying “well Hyman is better than Lucic” well Lucic was 28 when he signed with the Oil and had 6 seasons that were better than Zach’s career high.

Hyman has struggled with injuries the last couple years and plays a style that will be prone to breakdown. I heard Dreger refer to him as top 6/top 9 forward and they are paying him 1st/2nd line wing money now for a player that is likely going to decline quickly.

[stang]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Not really. Without buying out players the Oilers are pretty much screwed as you have to account for your RFAs.

Hyman ($5.5M)-McHobo ($12.5M)-Yamamoto ($2M)
The Tenderness ($5.125M)-German Gretzky ($8.5M)-Pull My RV ($1.175M)
Shore ($850K)-Turris ($$1.65M)-Neal ($5.75M)
McLeod ($835K)-Jar Jar Binks ($1.5M)-Kassian ($3.2M)
Archibald ($1.5M)

Nurse ($5.6M)-Barrie ($5M)
Keith ($5.54M)-Bear ($2M)
Russell ($1.2M)-Bouchard ($833K)
Broberg ($864K)

Koskinen ($4.5M)
Smith ($2M)

Cap hit: $80.619M
Cap space: $881K

Poster I was responding to said we couldn’t afford Barrie. You just put him in and signed our RFAs without buying anyone out or any trades. Not so sure how that equals screwed?

Zero chance JJ gets 1.5 btw (750k x 8 years is my guess )

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by stang

Capfriendly is a little misleading, because it has Alex stalock, broberg, lagesson and Klefbom on the roster. Once Klefbom goes LTIR and those other guys get moved down, there’s quite a bit of room still, and that’s without buying anyone out.

The Klefbom space gives Holland a little flexibility. Capfriendly has the Oilers at the following by position

Forwards - 10 forwards at 41.084 million
Defence - 7 dman at 16.840 million
Goalies - 2 goalies at 5.285 million
Dead cap - 2.250 million

Total - 65.459 million

If you add 5 million for Hyman they are at 70.5 million or so. If you add the rumored Smith net difference from Stalock they are at 71.75 million, so they would have about 9 million to sign 2 forwards and possibly improve the defence.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I mean Barrie for 5m is possible, I suppose... another 8 year deal incoming?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I think this is probably the best move Holland has made in Edmonton and I wish the Flames had grabbed him. The problem is that the Flames are not in the same win-now window that the Oilers are, and it would not be a good move for the Flames to commit to a contract like this.

It is so weird that between the two teams that have combined for a grand total of two playoff-game wins in the past two years, one of them is in a "win-now" window. It is even weirder that that team has accounted for 0 of those playoff game wins.


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[RedHot25]

Yup, hot rumour now in addition to this is good bye Neal and Koskinen; buy outs are a comin'...

[stang]

Here’s capfriendly after putting Klef on ltir, signing Hyman and smith and putting the players who aren’t going to make the team down. No buyouts and no trades yet

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by stang

Here’s capfriendly after putting Klef on ltir, signing Hyman and smith and putting the players who aren’t going to make the team down. No buyouts and no trades yet

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The Klefbom space gives Holland a little flexibility. Capfriendly has the Oilers at the following by position

Forwards - 10 forwards at 41.084 million
Defence - 7 dman at 16.840 million
Goalies - 2 goalies at 5.285 million
Dead cap - 2.250 million

Total - 65.459 million

If you add 5 million for Hyman they are at 70.5 million or so. If you add the rumored Smith net difference from Stalock they are at 71.75 million, so they would have about 9 million to sign 2 forwards and possibly improve the defence.

I thought Neal made $5,750,00

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by stang

Poster I was responding to said we couldn’t afford Barrie. You just put him in and signed our RFAs without buying anyone out or any trades. Not so sure how that equals screwed?

It's the exact same roster as lost season with the addition of Hyman and then Keith in for Larsson (net loss). You're screwed. Buyouts may provide a little more breathing room, but you're blowing another $3.5M a year for guys that aren't playing for you.

Zero chance JJ gets 1.5 btw (750k x 8 years is my guess )

He made $1.3M last season. He's not taking a cut. Not after Holland has been handing out contracts like candy.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Scorch

Wait... there’s a NMC for this signing too?
HAHAHHAHA

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418196333782093833

If I was signing a deal in Edmonton it would include Must Move Clause

[stang]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

It's the exact same roster as lost season with the addition of Hyman and then Keith in for Larsson (net loss). You're screwed. Buyouts may provide a little more breathing room, but you're blowing another $3.5M a year for guys that aren't playing for you.

The point was that there’s room. I don’t see that being the roster

He made $1.3M last season. He's not taking a cut. Not after Holland has been handing out contracts like candy.

I’ll bet on that.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I fail to see how the Flames are not in win now mode? They brought a coach out of retirement to try and win.

yeah, I think the term is terrible for the oilers...the AAV isn't terrible but 7-8 years is a long time.

I would also agree the Flames are in 'Win now' mode... I mean we aren't rebuilding, we're spending to the cap for the past bunch of years, our best players are in the back half of their twenties or older except for a few ....sounds like 'win now' to me.

[CroFlames]

I predict he'll be good for 2 or a max of 3 years. This is no star we are talking about.

McDavid probably needed to see something tangible from the GM after the Keith debacle, the Smith signing, and watching Larssen walk. I imagine we see them trade their 1st this year also to make McDavid happy.

The roster and cap are a disaster. Rivalry aside, not sure wtf Holland is thinking.