[News] Seattle made no side deals today, but apparently deals to be announced tomorrow

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Yes, but clearly the leaks weren't the NHL's fault. They were Treliving's fault.

One lynch mob at a time, please! The lineup to lynch Bettman will form starting tomorrow at noon ET.

The things you are saying are much more of an escalation than is actually happening from other posters

I really don’t get the point

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418034450915545088

I’m even more confused with this “clarification”

[Vansmack]

Originally Posted by SoulOfTheFlame

As a Kraken fan, this pleases me.

I suppose you will need a new username

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Whoa….. that’s insane.

Owners: “keep us in the basement for Wright and Bedard”

No, that's something fans say but the last thing the owners would say

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418034450915545088

That is a very interesting wrinkle. Francis knew other GMs were gunshy about trading assets before the draft to protect their own players. But they have no prior experience of trading assets to get an expansion team to poach other teams' players for them.

If you want to fool people twice, it certainly helps to have a different grift the second time.

[browna]

Sounds like the league didn't want to have their production tonighy and analysis on air around the pics muddied by the mentioning and factoring of the acquisition cost.

Also,maybe Gio looks a little shaken because he's flown to Seattle for no reason as he's off somewhere else?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

I dunno, if side deal negotiations failing with every single other team are any indication it just seems to me at least like he has no ####ing clue what he's doing.

Pretty sure half the posters here could have executed the draft better. What a schmuck!

Exactly what many people said about Vegas.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by browna

Sounds like the league didn't want to have their production tonighy and analysis on air around the pics muddied by the mentioning and factoring of the acquisition cost.

Totally reasonable. Keep it clean

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

No, that's something fans say but the last thing the owners would say

‘Twas a joke as I found some of the picks bizarre.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Yes, but clearly the leaks weren't the NHL's fault. They were Treliving's fault.

One lynch mob at a time, please! The lineup to lynch Bettman will form starting tomorrow at noon ET.

Just stop already. You’re repeating the same dam thing multiple times a day in multiple threads.

Your opinion is clearly known, you’re polluting any hockey discussion and doing nothing to stop the negativity. Surely you realize you’re just escalating things at this point?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

They could have asked for a second, third, or fourth not to take some of the players that they didn't take. They could have asked for something not to take some of the big-name guys even if they didn't plan on taking them. They still would have ended up with the players that they chose but would have possibly had additional assets.

Again, the issue is the relative values of the players. If we call Giordano's value a 5 and Kylington a 1, then a 1st and a 3rd is too much to pay for the difference between them. Most other teams went in knowing that they might lose a 3 at worst, and even a 3rd-round pick was too much to pay for the difference between a 3 and a 2. If it's the difference between one 3 and another 3, there's little point in paying any price at all.

[Enoch Root]

Yes, there were some surprising picks, but there are a lot of factors here, not the least of which being the cap. They avoided taking most of the big name, big ticket, low value guys, and instead kept the budget under control and opted with some of the picks for future upside.

What they did get was a really solid blueline, along with grit and tenacity, and some good middle 6 / bottom 6 forwards. They will be hard to play against.

And most importantly, they still have some $30M to play with. That can get them 4 to 6 really good players. And if they can add that to the base they built today, I think they might be in pretty solid shape.

They obviously were too greedy on the side deal issue, but calling them idiots is very premature.

[chummer]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

I dunno, if side deal negotiations failing with every single other team are any indication it just seems to me at least like he has no ####ing clue what he's doing.

Pretty sure half the posters here could have executed the draft better. What a schmuck!

No kidding, some head scratching moves today for sure. Wasn't too impressed with the Hakstol hiring either. Francis gets an F and Seattle is no good.

[calgarywinning]

Trades are happening. I mean they pass on Carey Price, even though I know he is injured and expensive.

[SportsJunky]

Why are people worked up over this? Isn't it a good thing if Francis screwed this up?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yes, there were some surprising picks, but there are a lot of factors here, not the least of which being the cap. They avoided taking most of the big name, big ticket, low value guys, and instead kept the budget under control and opted with some of the picks for future upside.

What they did get was a really solid blueline, along with grit and tenacity, and some good middle 6 / bottom 6 forwards. They will be hard to play against.

And most importantly, they still have some $30M to play with. That can get them 4 to 6 really good players. And if they can add that to the base they built today, I think they might be in pretty solid shape.

They obviously were too greedy on the side deal issue, but calling them idiots is very premature.

Not just premature but completely shortsighted. All these people calling for the Kraken to select the best 30 NHL players and then flipping a whole bunch for picks are out to lunch.

They’d have zero leverage if they tried that. Teams could just wait until closer to the start of the season, Francis would have no choice but to unload them or put them on waivers. What kind of idiot GM would trade for a player now that they can have for free in a month or two?

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Why are people worked up over this? Isn't it a good thing if Francis screwed this up?

The situation is basically every armchair GM’s dream.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by chummer

How were the leaks the NHL's fault? As has been mentioned, when the players were notified of course family and friends find out and leaks are inevitable.

And all the friends and family of the players called Frank Seravalli

[SoulOfTheFlame]

Originally Posted by Vansmack

I suppose you will need a new username

Good point, need to ask the mods!

Edit: who can I dm about this?

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

That is a very interesting wrinkle. Francis knew other GMs were gunshy about trading assets before the draft to protect their own players. But they have no prior experience of trading assets to get an expansion team to poach other teams' players for them.

If you want to fool people twice, it certainly helps to have a different grift the second time.

If there's actually no pre-arranged "we give you this so you pick this guy instead of that guy" though, then Francis has lost the opportunity to capitalize on wanting a player, even if to sell to another team, that is not the one that the team he's picking from perceives as the one most valuable.