07-21-2021, 08:20 AM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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This is a well time article ... just tweeted by the Edmonton Journal
https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...box=1626875679
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Mark Spector of Sportsnet lines up on the other side of the puck. In an extended discussion with host Bob Stauffer on Oilers Now on Wednesday, Spector held forth: “The latest that I’ve heard is that the Oilers and Larsson camp have basically agreed on the numbers on several contracts. If it’s a three-year contract, it’s worth this; if it’s a four-year contract, it’s probably right around $3.9, $4 million bucks; if it’s a five-year contract, maybe it’s worth a little bit less. My understanding is they pounded that out. My understanding also is that Adam Larsson hasn’t signed any of those, nor has he completely agreed to them. Do we have a player that is actively looking elsewhere to see what other teams are going to pay him? Tanev makes $4.5 in Calgary, I don’t know if Larsson is going to get to that point. I’ll bet you he comes in at $4.3, $4.25, so the Oilers are very close in money. It’s my belief that Adam Larsson is going to sign in Edmonton, that he’s been happy to wait until the whole [Duncan] Keith scenario is over and the expansion draft is over, and he will play on a defensive pairing with Keith. I could be wrong, nobody knows for sure, but I think Larsson will be signing here in the next week.”
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It’s not so much Plan B as Plan B-B-B. Whichever veteran returns will join Ethan Bear and Evan Bouchard on the right side. If it’s Barrie, there are two right shot rearguards below 6’0, and all three under 200 pounds. None of them comes anywhere close to Larsson’s defensive, uhh, chops.
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07-21-2021, 08:21 AM
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#62
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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lulz. Oh Oilers.
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07-21-2021, 08:21 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
Player agents aren't stupid. They have a pretty good idea what the market is going to look like and who has interest. Rarely are there surprise teams for players and contracts. These guys get paid to know the market, to have a really good idea what the market will bear, and most of them are really good at it. Larsson's agent would know who showed interest and what the potential contracts would look like. It's how players get signed minutes after the free agent period opens. So I still don't understand why you waste a pick on a player you know you can get in a week? Seems like poor asset management.
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You must think Benson is something special hey? I don’t think agents know what every single team will offer that is just not true. They may have an idea but things can change in the next week that would result in new teams potentially entering the mix. The Kraken didn’t want to roll the dice so they signed the 28 year old to a 4 year deal instead of taking a guy who is a tweener on one of the thinnest lineups in the league.
Good move by the Kraken here
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07-21-2021, 08:21 AM
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#64
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Oh Spec....so close.
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07-21-2021, 08:23 AM
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#65
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
How do they negotiate with Larsson if he still hasn’t been officially selected?
Isn’t he still an Oiler?
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Seattle has been given an exclusive window during the expansion draft to negotiate with any UFA or RFA as long as a team hasn't used a protection slot on them.
If they sign an unprotected UFA/RFA in that exclusive window, it is considered that player is their selection from that team for the expansion draft.
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07-21-2021, 08:23 AM
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#66
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Thanks sureloss.
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07-21-2021, 08:25 AM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Why would Barrie sign in Edmonton for $5M a year after putting up 48 points in 56 games? He can get at least $7M a year as a UFA.
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07-21-2021, 08:25 AM
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Franchise Player
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I could be wrong, but this actually seems like a situation where the Oilers spent a bunch of time negotiating with their own player, only to have their fawning, obsequious media leak a bunch of information about the state of those negotiations, and someone else said, "actually that's a pretty good deal, we'll outbid them by a few bucks" and got the player signed.
... I mean, I have no evidence that that's how things went down, but it would be funny and very Oilerish, so I choose to believe it on those grounds.
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07-21-2021, 08:26 AM
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#69
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Why would Barrie sign in Edmonton for $5M a year after putting up 48 points in 56 games? He can get at least $7M a year as a UFA.
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No chance. He’s one dimensional.
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07-21-2021, 08:28 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
No chance. He’s one dimensional.
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So is Erik Karlsson. So is John Carlson. D men that put up monster offensive numbers get big money.
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07-21-2021, 08:29 AM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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I remember Larsson before he was drafted. He had offense to his game with Sweden. Points don’t show it. I bigger role and a new start could reboot him.
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07-21-2021, 08:29 AM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
How do they negotiate with Larsson if he still hasn’t been officially selected?
Isn’t he still an Oiler?
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As part of the expansion rules they get an exclusive, early negotiation window for pending UFAs. So they were the only other team allowed to negotiate with him.
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07-21-2021, 08:30 AM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
He is obviously trolling.
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Are the Flames a better team with Gio at 6.75 M ?
with Gio with the Flames they have 10 players to sign to fill in the roster for 13M. That is already counting Ritchie as one of 11 league minimum players.
Tell me how this same Flames team will be better than 2020-21 version without the Gio salary dump? Any trade with anyone other than the Kraken will be sending cap back.
It is really important to the Flames that the Kraken take Gio.
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07-21-2021, 08:34 AM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
I remember Larsson before he was drafted. He had offense to his game with Sweden. Points don’t show it. I bigger role and a new start could reboot him.
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He is what he is. Does Tanev need rebooting?
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07-21-2021, 08:34 AM
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#75
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by ricardodw
Are the Flames a better team with Gio at 6.75 M ?
with Gio with the Flames they have 10 players to sign to fill in the roster for 13M. That is already counting Ritchie as one of 11 league minimum players.
Tell me how this same Flames team will be better than 2020-21 version without the Gio salary dump? Any trade with anyone other than the Kraken will be sending cap back.
It is really important to the Flames that the Kraken take Gio.
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If you are asking if the Flames are better with or without Gio on the team...the answer is obvious.
As for the rest of your nonsensical gobbledy-gouk...ever hear of teams making trades at the draft?
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07-21-2021, 08:34 AM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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I could like this post a thousand times. OT but you should also tell me what they are building in campbell by my house  . Lol
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07-21-2021, 08:37 AM
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#77
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
You must think Benson is something special hey? I don’t think agents know what every single team will offer that is just not true. They may have an idea but things can change in the next week that would result in new teams potentially entering the mix. The Kraken didn’t want to roll the dice so they signed the 28 year old to a 4 year deal instead of taking a guy who is a tweener on one of the thinnest lineups in the league.
Good move by the Kraken here
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No, I don't think Benson is anything special. Don't think he's a player at all. I would have chosen Khaira. I just think it's really dumb to pick a player you can get for free in a few days. If you can work the system and get an extra asset that makes your system better you should do so.
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07-21-2021, 08:37 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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I hope Barrie leaves after basically being treated like chopped liver.
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07-21-2021, 08:39 AM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
No, I don't think Benson is anything special. Don't think he's a player at all. I would have chosen Khaira. I just think it's really dumb to pick a player you can get for free in a few days. If you can work the system and get an extra asset that makes your system better you should do so.
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What if someone offers Larsson 4.5 mil x 4 next week after you've passed on him? Then you're an idiot who didn't lock down larsson while picking up Jujar F'in Khaira as a consolation.
This was obviously the right move, not sure how that is difficult to see.
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07-21-2021, 08:40 AM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald
No, I don't think Benson is anything special. Don't think he's a player at all. I would have chosen Khaira. I just think it's really dumb to pick a player you can get for free in a few days. If you can work the system and get an extra asset that makes your system better you should do so.
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I guess the answer is you *might* get them for free in a few days, but you have compete with everyone else. If you want that player, you have a window with no competition, so you use that get a deal done.
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