Stampede 2021

[Acey]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Really unfortunate.

Unfortunate that people are being smart and not attending Stampede, or...?

[djsFlames]

People that said they won't attend that I know are already making plans to attend.

That includes people that wanted to make a statement to Kenny by not going lol.

I suspect it will be similar here, except for those who didn't attend in normal years, where it will just be another year for them.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Acey

Unfortunate that people are being smart and not attending Stampede, or...?

unfortunate for the economy...something that has taken an absolute beating. The amount of money a normal Stampede generates for the locals is staggering and so important.

Im not sure what makes it "smart" to not attend?

Unless we are never going to attend large events again for fear of something their is a vaccination for, what's the issue? Not to mention the majority of this event is both outdoors and in the heat. Two things this virus tends to dislike immensely. Why is this worse than opening restaurants or the return of sporting events?

It's time to start living again and quit being afraid of something almost entirely within ones own control. If their are idiots that refuse to protect themselves, so be it. They can live with the consequences of their choices.

[WhiteTiger]

I'm not gonna lie...I went in to work last night expecting a ****show of a gongshow. But it wasn't...that bad overall. It felt a bit busier than a usual Friday Summer nightshift, but not by much. Averaged 1.25 dispatched calls per minute (lately we've been around .95-1 dcpm)

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I was just watching the Rodeo on TV from earlier today and I was surprised to see the American and Brazilian cowboys in the events. I thought the government wasn't giving the Cowboys and exemption to come up here but apparently that must have changed at some point.

They were granted an exemption and modified quarantine rules about a month ago.

https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/rodeo-com...pede-1.5466591

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by transplant99

If their are idiots that refuse to protect themselves, so be it. They can live with the consequences of their choices.

What a succinct summary of choosing to attend Stampede.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by transplant99

unfortunate for the economy...something that has taken an absolute beating. The amount of money a normal Stampede generates for the locals is staggering and so important.

Im not sure what makes it "smart" to not attend?

Unless we are never going to attend large events again for fear of something their is a vaccination for, what's the issue? Not to mention the majority of this event is both outdoors and in the heat. Two things this virus tends to dislike immensely. Why is this worse than opening restaurants or the return of sporting events?

It's time to start living again and quit being afraid of something almost entirely within ones own control. If their are idiots that refuse to protect themselves, so be it. They can live with the consequences of their choices.

There's a difference between never and another month or so when we'll have 70%+ with both vaccine shots. We're not quite out of this completely so yeah, I would say the smart thing to do is avoid large crowds like the Stampede. Not forever, just now.

I'm with you on the outdoor part but I think it's been demonstrated pretty well in other countries that hot weather does very little to stop the spread.

I'm hoping we don't see a large spike in cases but I expect some increase especially after seeing a picture of people with "Stay away from me if you're vaccinated" shirts at the Stampede. The problem with these idiots is they don't just get themselves sick, but others who can't get vaccinated yet.

[pepper24]

We went last night and was busier than expected which was good to see. You sometimes forget how multicultural and great a city Calgary is until you go to a big event like Stampede.

My daughter said it’s the most normal she’s felt in over a year which hit home. It was a fun night.

[8 Ball]

The weather is at least cooperating this year.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

There's a difference between never and another month or so when we'll have 70%+ with both vaccine shots. We're not quite out of this completely so yeah, I would say the smart thing to do is avoid large crowds like the Stampede. Not forever, just now.

I'm with you on the outdoor part but I think it's been demonstrated pretty well in other countries that hot weather does very little to stop the spread.

I'm hoping we don't see a large spike in cases but I expect some increase especially after seeing a picture of people with "Stay away from me if you're vaccinated" shirts at the Stampede. The problem with these idiots is they don't just get themselves sick, but others who can't get vaccinated yet.

I think the open restaurants are a much greater risk than anything that is stampede proper. Stampede can be done entirely outdoors. The rodeo looked reasonably spaced and again outside.

If there’s a spike it’s bars and restaurants and in house parties and not stampede proper. People will blame stampede though.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

There's a difference between never and another month or so when we'll have 70%+ with both vaccine shots. We're not quite out of this completely so yeah, I would say the smart thing to do is avoid large crowds like the Stampede. Not forever, just now.

I'm with you on the outdoor part but I think it's been demonstrated pretty well in other countries that hot weather does very little to stop the spread.

I'm hoping we don't see a large spike in cases but I expect some increase especially after seeing a picture of people with "Stay away from me if you're vaccinated" shirts at the Stampede. The problem with these idiots is they don't just get themselves sick, but others who can't get vaccinated yet.

So then waits 3 more months when 75% are vaccinated, or a year when XX% are vaccinated.

The problem with that is .....its never going to get to place where its completely safe. Viruses never die and this thing will be here forever to some degree. Where is the threshold?

Im unaware who cant get vaccinated yet? Just yesterday there was a pancake breakfast and anyone who wanted a shot could get one. 12 people took advantage. Just about every pharmacy is giving them out, there are at least a dozen AHS sites you can either drop in or get appointment.

Sorry but in this city anyone who wants, should easily have their 1st if not 2nd by now.

Its time to get back to normal...for those that dont wish to, they dont have to. Those who do should certainly have that choice though.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Viruses never die and this thing will be here forever to some degree.

This is demonstrably false. Smallpox, for example, was completely eradicated thanks to vaccines. It's also possible that certain strains of influenza went extinct over the past year as a byproduct of all the increased public health measures taken in response to COVID-19.

https://www.livescience.com/flu-viru...-covid-19.html

[81MC]

Originally Posted by pepper24

You sometimes forget how multicultural and great a city Calgary is until you go to a big event like Stampede...

I don’t think Calgary gets enough credit in this regard. Our little country bumpkin city on the edge of the prairies seems to attract people from all over the world, and a pretty good rate.

I’m always pleasantly reminded when you start listening to all the different languages you’ll hear doing pretty much anything in this city. It’s quite remarkable, and I think speaks volumes to the quality of life we have here. I know I bitch about plenty, and there’s apparently a contingent of WE MUST CHANGE (aka, we must enact conservative politicking to make private enterprise profit more), but we really do have a damn good thing here.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

The weather is at least cooperating this year.

Come on man. Now you've ####ing done it.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Im unaware who cant get vaccinated yet?

Anyone under 12.

The few parents I do know of kids in this range are pretty worried, and acting accordingly.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Julio

Edmonton to not have K Days...but still have a Midway...


https://globalnews.ca/news/8017017/m...edium=Facebook

Ahhh.....Carnies....a notoriously courteous, careful and hygienic folk.

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Where is the threshold?

This is all fairly uncharted territory therefore nobody really knows. As a result I don’t think there is a definitive “one threshold” which I think is the point.
70% single vaccines are good for some people
A higher rate is acceptable to others
Some want double vaccination rates to be x%
To some they don’t need a vaccine, because [they only eat healthy whole food, some deity will protect them, it’s just a flu, other]

Government and business are going to pick a certain level and go with that weighing the pros and cons of their threshold.

We all need to pick a threshold that we feel is acceptable. If that is more stringent than what others select then we take appropriate precautions. If your threshold is lower than what a government or private business has chosen then you need to decide if you will meet that limit or not.

People will continue to adapt, learn and overcome.

I’m in the rarely go to Stampede crowd however I do partake in breakfasts and such. This year I won’t attend any of that sort of event or any private function beyond a couple of trusted friends. My threshold is higher than the government’s.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FurnaceFace

This is all fairly uncharted territory therefore nobody really knows. As a result I don’t think there is a definitive “one threshold” which I think is the point.
70% single vaccines are good for some people
A higher rate is acceptable to others
Some want double vaccination rates to be x%
To some they don’t need a vaccine, because [they only eat healthy whole food, some deity will protect them, it’s just a flu, other]

Government and business are going to pick a certain level and go with that weighing the pros and cons of their threshold.

We all need to pick a threshold that we feel is acceptable. If that is more stringent than what others select then we take appropriate precautions. If your threshold is lower than what a government or private business has chosen then you need to decide if you will meet that limit or not.

People will continue to adapt, learn and overcome.

Very well put, and more importantly, while you probably wont see me at Stampede, at some point we have to understand that we cant hide forever.

[woob]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Its time to get back to normal...for those that dont wish to, they dont have to. Those who do should certainly have that choice though.

They do? Hence why the Stampede is on. Why you can walk into many businesses without a mask now. Why you can sit across from all your buddies at a restaurant now.

But let's not forget we just went through a year and half global pandemic and even when health officials say X is safe or Y is ok, many people will still hesitate. You don't just drop that overnight. That's why many people are still masking when they go indoors, or choosing not to go to big events, etc. And I support them just as much as I support a family who went to the Stampede and it was a positive experience that made them feel normal. I support people being able to choose where their line is drawn in the sand, despite it possibly being different than mine.

And regarding Stampede attendance; yes hesitancy is playing a big role, but let's not forget there are a lot of people who are in a much different financial position than they were 2 years ago and that may be contributing as well. Not to mention, little to no tourists.

[opendoor]

While I don't think a largely outdoor event like Stampede will necessarily lead to a ton of spread, there's plenty of evidence from other places about the potential risks of going with business as usual too quickly. The Netherlands is a good example; they have pretty similar vaccination stats to Alberta (65% 1st dose vs 63% in Alberta and 39% 2nd dose vs 45% in Alberta), and their cases have exploded in the last 10 days:

Jun 30: 634
July 1: 825
July 2: 941
July 3: 1,125
July 4: 1,215
July 5: 1,519
July 6: 2,209
July 7: 3,646
July 8: 5,431
July 9: 6,926
July 10: 10,345