[Rumour] Tarasenko has requested a trade and the Blues interest in Tkachuk

[Nelson]

Is Tarasenko now healthy? https://www.nhl.com/blues/news/taras...es/c-322152958

If he is, I think he’s still a great player who had an abnormally bad shooting percentage in limited action last year. If the Flames could get a deal like Tarasenko, a 1st and Thomas (or potentially even more) for Tkachuk, I would seriously consider it. Tarasenko’s deal is only for two more years.

I’m prepared to be lambasted.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Is Tarasenko now healthy? https://www.nhl.com/blues/news/taras...es/c-322152958

If he is, I think he’s still a great player who had an abnormally bad shooting percentage in limited action last year. If the Flames could get a deal like Tarasenko, a 1st and Thomas (or potentially even more) for Tkachuk, I would seriously consider it. Tarasenko’s deal is only for two more years.

I’m prepared to be lambasted.

Is he ‘Kucherov healthy’?

That may be the best kind of healthy

[DionTheDman]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

I demand a trade!

OK, but you have a no movement clause. You'll have to waive it.

NO!

But this also leads to hilarious situations like Dany Heatley requesting a trade from Ottawa, but refusing to waive to go to Edmonton.

[djsFlames]

Toronto article says they could beat Tarasenko offer by offering Nylander.

Neither guy straight up does it for me. Would have to be valuable adds to go with either.

[Jiri Hrdina]

A package around Nylander would be of interest to me. Heck he was born in Calgary so bring him home! Throw in Nic Robertson

[FanIn80]

Maaannnn... I've been wanting to get Nylander for the last three seasons!

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Toronto article says they could beat Tarasenko offer by offering Nylander.

Neither guy straight up does it for me. Would have to be valuable adds to go with either.

Throw in Matthews and we’ll consider it.

[djsFlames]

At least willy wasn't a slouch in playoffs.

8 points in 7 games and plus 3. Definitely not part of the problem there. The "big two" were more of an issue.

[Macho0978]

At this point if we can get nylander straight up for Tkachuk we have to consider it

Not sure how the leafs can resign Tkachuk though for anywhere near what nylander makes. Seems to be an important piece to that trade considering their cap issues.

[Harry Lime]

St. Louis does have the pieces to get this done, but those pieces are Tarasenko, Perunovich and their 2022 or 2023 1st. If the Blues faithful don't get upset at what they would think is an overpay, I don't see why Calgary does it.

The same with Toronto. I would ask for Nylander, Amirov and their 2022 or 2023 1st. There is exactly zero pressure on Calgary.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

St. Louis does have the pieces to get this done, but those pieces are Tarasenko, Perunovich and their 2022 or 2023 1st. If the Blues faithful don't get upset at what they would think is an overpay, I don't see why Calgary does it.

The same with Toronto. I would ask for Nylander, Amirov and their 2022 or 2023 1st. There is exactly zero pressure on Calgary.

Tarensenko offer makes some sense. It’s not far off

Leafs offer is very far off. Nylander has term on his deal and amirov is a much higher rated prospect than the blues have.

Not sure how the Flames have no pressure on them? They have 2 years sure but the last year could be at $9 mil and a rental player. You also must be assuming the rumours Tkachuk wants out are bs which could be true.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Toronto article says they could beat Tarasenko offer by offering Nylander.

Neither guy straight up does it for me. Would have to be valuable adds to go with either.

Imagine the 180 of the Canadian media towards Tkachuk

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

TBF the story is “officially requested”. So if he’s actually done that, he should live with it.

But was does it actually mean?

There are no legal consequences because the Blues don’t have to trade him. He has a made a request. That’s it. Why should Taresenko unilaterally give up his no trade protection if he’s not getting trade certainty from it?

They may have used the word “officially”, but that was simply their choice of words. It was used in a generic fashion. If it had legal consequences, no player would ever use it.


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[Huntingwhale]

Barring a massive overpayment by STL that is better than EVERY other offer in the league, there is not a deal to be made here that makes the Flames better IMO. I've always liked Tarasenko...when he was on the cusp of scoring 40 goals every season. Like him or not, he is likely not that player anymore. And who is going to get him the puck when Gaudreau is likely traded at some point?

I don't know enough about Tarasenko outside of his goal scoring so maybe someone can comment if he's a line driver and generates offence on his own? Or is he another winger who need someone to get him the puck to be effective?

Tarasenko and Johnny together is an intriguing pairing...if Gaudreau re-signs. Otherwise Tkachuk is our most valuable trading piece and that should be used to acquire a #1 C or a significant package that is impossible to refuse.

The injury history of Tarasenko as well as the age difference does not translate to the Flames coming out a better team if this trade goes down. Would much rather see Tkachuk re-signed long term here.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

St. Louis does have the pieces to get this done, but those pieces are Tarasenko, Perunovich and their 2022 or 2023 1st. If the Blues faithful don't get upset at what they would think is an overpay, I don't see why Calgary does it.

The same with Toronto. I would ask for Nylander, Amirov and their 2022 or 2023 1st. There is exactly zero pressure on Calgary.

Really? Treliving is feeling safe and comfie?

[Nelson]

I see this Tkachuk, St Louis situation as an opportunity for the Flames. They have unusual leverage in this situation because Keith Tkachuk works for the Blues and may push to have the Blues acquire Matthew Tkachuk. You're always weaker in a negotiation when you are less willing to say no.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

St. Louis does have the pieces to get this done, but those pieces are Tarasenko, Perunovich and their 2022 or 2023 1st. If the Blues faithful don't get upset at what they would think is an overpay, I don't see why Calgary does it.

The same with Toronto. I would ask for Nylander, Amirov and their 2022 or 2023 1st. There is exactly zero pressure on Calgary.

That Blues deal is absolutely horrendous. You actually think getting a winger who has been injured for 2 years, 30 years old with 2 years at 7.5M, a prospect drafted 3 years ago who is missing a full year due to injury and a single first rounder is enough for a 23 year old star player?

This trade looks like the Flames sending Monahan, Pelletier, 1st for Eichel. It is not near enough

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I see this Tkachuk, St Louis situation as an opportunity for the Flames. They have unusual leverage in this situation because Keith Tkachuk works for the Blues and may push to have the Blues acquire Matthew Tkachuk. You're always weaker in a negotiation when you are less willing to say no.

Then they can go ahead and get a third team on the line for us.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Nelson

I see this Tkachuk, St Louis situation as an opportunity for the Flames. They have unusual leverage in this situation because Keith Tkachuk works for the Blues and may push to have the Blues acquire Matthew Tkachuk. You're always weaker in a negotiation when you are less willing to say no.

If the Blues had the Rangers asset base we could definitely work to talk deal and I wouldn’t discount the Rangers as a team the Flames engage in a Tkachuk deal. As much as Chucky may want to go home the big lights of Broadway always seem to call to players.

Problem with the Blues is their current core is in that 30+ range and they have very little in terms of young talent with the same ceiling as Tkachuk.

I need 4 1st round compensation for Tkachuk from the Blues. Thomas, Kyrou, 22 and 23 1st rounder. We could also potentially include one of Backlund/Monahan for Tarasenko.

Tkachuk+Monahan
For
Thomas, Kyrou, Tarasenko, 22 1st, 23 1st

Blues fans will hate it but that is the price you pay in my opinion or we let Tkachuk rebuild his value next year and hope a bounce back season from the team.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Then they can go ahead and get a third team on the line for us.

Sounds good to me.