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Old 06-29-2021, 11:00 PM   #61
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There has been taller buildings built with wood in BC, I’ve seen pics of a skyscraper in BC.

Plenty of 6 story wood frame all over the city.
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Old 06-29-2021, 11:25 PM   #62
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18 storey wood building at UBC

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Old 06-30-2021, 03:40 PM   #63
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I always thought it was 4-5 story range as seen by every Super 8, motel 6 and comfort inn.

Maybe that's the limit for 2x4 construction and paper thin walls.
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Another building, 7 miles north of Champlain Towers, evacuated out of caution. Apparently there was an inspection in January that found it to be structurally unsafe because a recertification report hadn’t been completed.

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So much seawater coming into the building for years sounds horrific.

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I hesitate to post this here, as this might just be urban legend, but in case this is actually true, it might alter some travel plans...
As you know, I deal a lot with insurers, and some industry old-timers tell me that the Stratosphere Hotel in LV is built on a giant sink-hole. The engineering report done at the time said that it would be insane to build it, but it was suppressed at the approval stage because... Vegas in the 70's. Anyhow, probably a myth, but perhaps stay away from it on your travels...
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Old 07-05-2021, 07:48 PM   #67
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I hesitate to post this here, as this might just be urban legend, but in case this is actually true, it might alter some travel plans...
As you know, I deal a lot with insurers, and some industry old-timers tell me that the Stratosphere Hotel in LV is built on a giant sink-hole. The engineering report done at the time said that it would be insane to build it, but it was suppressed at the approval stage because... Vegas in the 70's. Anyhow, probably a myth, but perhaps stay away from it on your travels...
It reminds me of when I lived in Ottawa few years ago. They wanted to build a portion of their LRT in the subsurface downtown. The company that did the initial geotechnical study determined that the stratigraphy was not sound enough to build a subway there. Ottawa's solution? Hire a new geotechnical consultant for the project. They ended up getting the answer they wanted and the project went ahead.


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Some people in Ottawa say the sink hole has compromised buildings in the area. Fortunately, an engineering firm hired by the City has said that is not the case. Thank goodness for that, otherwise that CIBC building looks like it might be trouble.
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So much seawater coming into the building for years sounds horrific.

Makes you wonder about most of southern Florida and places like New Orleans. Hopefully lessons are learned and this mistake isn't repeated.
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I hesitate to post this here, as this might just be urban legend, but in case this is actually true, it might alter some travel plans...
As you know, I deal a lot with insurers, and some industry old-timers tell me that the Stratosphere Hotel in LV is built on a giant sink-hole. The engineering report done at the time said that it would be insane to build it, but it was suppressed at the approval stage because... Vegas in the 70's. Anyhow, probably a myth, but perhaps stay away from it on your travels...
Same or similar has been said about Luxor and it has been rumored that the foundation has been sinking into the ground.

Likely all urban legend but...
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Stratosphere sucks anyway, so nbd.

But I've stayed at Luxor a couple times and now I won't anymore. Not like there's a shortage of hotels in Vegas.
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Clearly a long history of construction being there but so much salt water has to be accounted for. Must be a constant battle.

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Stratosphere sucks anyway, so nbd.

But I've stayed at Luxor a couple times and now I won't anymore. Not like there's a shortage of hotels in Vegas.
It is my goal to stay at every resort between Mandalay Bay and Encore. I haven't been to any of the Caesar's properties yet and I haven't been to Luxor yet. I'd love to get to Luxor before it falls into the ground. I feel that it will be imploded before anything tragic happens as it is too much of a theme compared to the vanilla 5-star hotel styles that all the hotels are trying to be these days.

At any rate, if anything were now a serious concern in Vegas you would think they would nip it in the bud quickly. With so many tourists in each resort at any given time there could be a lot of bad PR for the big companies to deal with. Sure, they worry about deaths and injuries, but they're more worried about losing money.

I doubt there is much truth to the rumors of Luxor and The Strat being on shaky ground (physically).
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It makes me wonder about the crappy condos that were built here in the Vancouver area. I have heard stories about a lot of them needing fairly extensive restoration. I assumed most of it was cosmetic, but now I have to wonder.
I'd be more concerned with some of the rental apartment buildings.
Condos are required to get depreciation reports done since 2013 and sale value dictate most buildings do their required updates or end up unsellable.
Rental apartments with a single owner I could see trying to cut corners and save costs however.

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my info could be a little old, but I think Alberta and BC have been at about 5 story max for wood, and have been considering jumping to 12 story for CLT. There is certainly a chance we could start to see big changes in mid-rise residential construction.
BC is 6 stories for wood frame now, used to be 4.
CLT is interesting if it catches on, seems kind of concerning to me.
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I'd be more concerned with some of the rental apartment buildings.
Condos are required to get depreciation reports done since 2013 and sale value dictate most buildings do their required updates or end up unsellable.
Rental apartments with a single owner I could see trying to cut corners and save costs however.


BC is 6 stories for wood frame now, used to be 4.
CLT is interesting if it catches on, seems kind of concerning to me.
Don’t be concerned. Wood holds up better than steel in a fire anyway. It’s a long time coming, and they will take over the industry. Or at least be a major part of it.
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It is my goal to stay at every resort between Mandalay Bay and Encore. I haven't been to any of the Caesar's properties yet and I haven't been to Luxor yet. I'd love to get to Luxor before it falls into the ground. I feel that it will be imploded before anything tragic happens as it is too much of a theme compared to the vanilla 5-star hotel styles that all the hotels are trying to be these days.

At any rate, if anything were now a serious concern in Vegas you would think they would nip it in the bud quickly. With so many tourists in each resort at any given time there could be a lot of bad PR for the big companies to deal with. Sure, they worry about deaths and injuries, but they're more worried about losing money.

I doubt there is much truth to the rumors of Luxor and The Strat being on shaky ground (physically).
I haven't been to Vegas since theming was all the rage in the 90s. Every hotel was trying to be some theme park idea to attract families and it was such a different place. I vividly remember Luxor as a kid and just like the Chinook theatre, most of the egyptian theming has been taken away. Most people never even got to ride on the Nile boat that went around the hotel before they shut it down.
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Crap. This sucks all around.

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Same or similar has been said about Luxor and it has been rumored that the foundation has been sinking into the ground.

Likely all urban legend but...
There is also a little city under the streets of Vegas where many homeless people live.

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