[News] Sean Monahan done for the season. Needs hip surgery. Will be ready for training camp

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Iggy_12

Im 110% over Sean Monahan, he exemplifies this franchise, no heart, no emotion. Its great he plays through injury because hes legitimately injured every single season or he wouldnt ever play!

Was looking forward to this being the final season of watching him float around and hang off Johnny's shoulders but looks like it will be difficult to trade him now. I honestly dont even care what we get back, just ridding that contract would be a win.

Seriously, I hope we have a new GM and he exposes Monahan in the Expansion Draft.

[neo45]

Monahan “going to the dirty areas” is one of the biggest myths on this forum. He’s not Tomas Holmstrom. He stands in the slot away from all contact and hopes the winger can get him the perfect pass to finish. He doesn’t even bother to battle defensively or play physically


Seriously when has Monahan ever even crashed the net? Had a net front battle? He got hacked and slashed and that’s what injured his hip?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Monahan is always hurt because the league knows he’s weak and won’t stand up for himself or defend himself. So they hurt him.

They take shots, they take slashes, they do everything they’d do to Johnny because there’s no chance of repercussions unless they wear 93 for Edmonton.

What a ####ing stupid take. And WTF does The Tenderness have to do with this?

[Poe969]

This all but guarantees the team is going to look the same next year. He won't be traded and I doubt anyone else will either. "Let's give this core one more time" has been the team moto for far too long.

Trading him now would be selling at a low point but this team needs to be changed and the sooner the better.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Monny takes a beating every season in the middle of the Ice. Of course he's going to have surgeries every year.

He's not soft despite some really hot takes in here. He's not a banger either though. But to be fair he's laid out more than few players this year with his hitting.

People just don't like Monahan, but they don't like him for all the wrong narratives.

All true, maybe he doesn't get the credit for being tougher than he seems. It still hasn't translated into the Flames being a winning team. That should be the paramount factor in the Flames roster decisions. I hope Monahan makes a full recovery and gets his game back, but if the Flames need to move on from him to improve, so be it.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by neo45

Monahan “going to the dirty areas” is one of the biggest myths on this forum. He’s not Tomas Holmstrom. He stands in the slot away from all contact and hopes the winger can get him the perfect pass to finish. He doesn’t even bother to battle defensively or play physically


Seriously when has Monahan ever even crashed the net? Had a net front battle? He got hacked and slashed and that’s what injured his hip?

You should probably watch some Flames games there patcha. You're the one having the myth moment.

[Flamesforever99]

Hope he has a speedy recovery. On the bright side he won't play anymore because all that did was reduce his trade value, without Johnny I'm starting to question if he's even a second liner at this point.
Pack your bags bud.

[TheIronMaiden]

Monahan is hurt all the time because he is repeatedly crosschecked in front of the net every game. Hockey, like basketball, is a sport where you can make as much contact in the key as you please so long as they don't have the puck.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Poe969

This all but guarantees the team is going to look the same next year. He won't be traded and I doubt anyone else will either. "Let's give this core one more time" has been the team moto for far too long.

Trading him now would be selling at a low point but this team needs to be changed and the sooner the better.

I will be stunned if there aren't changes, this just means that perhaps there is lower probability that Monahan is one of those names being moved.
But let's face it - moving core players is not done frequently. So if people are expecting all of Johnny, Tkachuk and Sean to be moved that's probably too extreme.

I suspect there is a very high probability that Johnny gets move and that will represent the big thing this off-season.

If they do take a run at Eichel that changes my POV. That would involve more pieces obviously.

Amongst the 3 i would peg it as follows, in terms of probability of being traded:

Johnny: 65%
Tkachuk: 30%
Monahan: 15%

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by neo45

Hip surgeries have come a long way. If he’s getting the Birmingham one he can bounce back super quickly

Any idea on the track record for players coming back from hip surgery?

Is there a track record for recovery?


Did the Flames management prevent Monahan from shutting it down early?

It is going to be a quick short summer.

[Kipper_3434]

Mony is a warrior. Many wanted to trade Backlund when he had injury issues....or wrote him off completely. Keep mony and find a #1 defenceman. Also monahan may not play a hard checking game but he takes his share of abuse in front of the net. I hope we keep him even if he isn't a superstar .

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by New Era

What a ####ing stupid take. And WTF does The Tenderness have to do with this?

He’s the most passive player in the game. If he ####ed someone else up even once, the league might be a little reticent to go at him.

He doesn’t defend himself, he doesn’t defend Gaudreau.

I genuinely don’t understand why anyone would think all Monahan needs to do is heal up.

And the Tenderness is tougher than Monahan. By a lot. That’s what he has to do with it. Because that’s a huge problem when RNH is tougher than even three people on your team, never mind an alleged top-6 C.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Monahan is always hurt because the league knows he’s weak and won’t stand up for himself or defend himself. So they hurt him.

They take shots, they take slashes, they do everything they’d do to Johnny because there’s no chance of repercussions unless they wear 93 for Edmonton.

Why is that Sean Monahan's job? Do other top centers fight to protect themselves?

Isn't that the whole reason this team employs Lucic, Rinaldo,etc?

It's very rare for a guy who's playing as a top line center to fight. Let's look back to 13-14 and look at the top 20 centers in league scoring over that time (Monahan is 19th).

Crosby - 2
McDavid - 0
Tavares - 0
Giroux - 1
Backstrom - 0
Mackinnon - 6
Malkin - 4
Kopitar - 0
Seguin - 1
Pavelski - 3
Scheifele - 1
Draisaitl - 0
O'Reilly - 0
Bergeron - 2
Stamkos - 4
Barkov - 0
Getzlaf - 16
Toews - 4
Monahan - 1
Johansen - 9

Damn, look at all those soft centers that don't fight. Wouldn't want any of those guys on my team.

It's ridiculous to think that the guy who is your top 6 goal scoring center, who has a history of hand/wrist injuries now, should be fighting to protect himself.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Mony is a warrior. Many wanted to trade Backlund when he had injury issues....or wrote him off completely. Keep mony and find a #1 defenceman. Also monahan may not play a hard checking game but he takes his share of abuse in front of the net. I hope we keep him even if he isn't a superstar .

Mony and warrior don't go in the same sentence unless it includes the word NOT. Superstar? he's not even a star. Without Johnny, he's like 3rd line center at best.

[Vedder]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I will be stunned if there aren't changes, this just means that perhaps there is lower probability that Monahan is one of those names being moved.
But let's face it - moving core players is not done frequently. So if people are expecting all of Johnny, Tkachuk and Sean to be moved that's probably too extreme.

I suspect there is a very high probability that Johnny gets move and that will represent the big thing this off-season.

If they do take a run at Eichel that changes my POV. That would involve more pieces obviously.

Amongst the 3 i would peg it as follows, in terms of probability of being traded:

Johnny: 65%
Tkachuk: 30%
Monahan: 15%

It would be very Flames to keep the lowest impact player with the least upside for sure.

[dammage79]

So this is not the flaming hot take thread for the Monahan haters. Seems right.

He's not innocent of blame for this season nor should he be one of the main focal points like he has been. Every single one not named Lindholm should hang their heads low in shame for this year. Every. Single. One.

[Vedder]

Here's a hot take - he's been bad for a season and a half with declining even strength production. If the hip injury dates back that far you've got something. if not, my opinion on him and his future does not change.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I will be stunned if there aren't changes

I get where you are coming from but I was saying the same thing last offseason. I'm sure the pandemic played into the lack of changes but I also think the GM really thinks (or thought) his guys have it in them. Maybe this season was enough to finally change that for him because it's been a few seasons now where most fans and outsiders have felt the core of this team needed a big shakeup.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Hip - I wouldn't have guessed that. I would have guessed wrists since his shot disappeared. I think he looked a bit faster out there this year. Good on him for skating hard and through (what I assume) must have been some discomfort, it not outright pain.


Neo went overboard on his comments, but some of them aren't exactly wrong. He isn't the net-front presence, he is the guy in the slot. Like Monahan or not, but that's Monahan. I like him, and if he can get whatever it is aside form his hips fixed, then he is a deadly shooter from the slot, and that's a legitimate weapon. I do think he is coachable, and Sutter will make sure that Monahan becomes a better centre.


If this means that Monahan is not traded, that's ok. However, I think it is absolutely asinine to trade Gaudreau (with the only caveat in that if he doesn't want to extend in Calgary, obviously). Other than that, Gaudreau has been effective under Darryl. Heck, what other player has looked dangerous? This team is effectively a non-skilled, non-threatening team when Gaudreau is not on the ice for the most part.


This off-season is going to be interesting.


Hope Monahan comes back stronger than ever.


On the other hand, playing the 'what if' game, what if Monahan continues to deteriorate? Then this off-season would be a smart one to trade him, no? His value is low right now (probably), but give it another season of declining performance, and what will his stock be next off-season? That's the gamble right now - do you keep him and hope he rebounds, or trade him and salvage whatever value he does have?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dammage79

So this is not the flaming hot take thread for the Monahan haters. Seems right.

He's not innocent of blame for this season nor should he be one of the main focal points like he has been. Every single one not named Lindholm should hang their heads low in shame for this year. Every. Single. One.

I'd say Mangiapane deserves to be in there with Lindholm.