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Old 02-25-2021, 07:40 PM   #61
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When the very worst team in the NHL embarasses you, it better be a wake up call.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:41 PM   #62
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:41 PM   #63
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Nobody makes we want to take glass shards to my eyeballs quite like the 20-21 Flames.

I.. I get it now. The process was about me slowly bleeding out through my eye holes and welcoming sweet, sweet death.

It's glorious Brad.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:41 PM   #64
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Unacceptable. Absolutely unacceptable.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:41 PM   #66
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Since the week off, in games decided in regulation the Flames have 5 wins and 10 losses. That is pretty horrendous.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:42 PM   #67
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Really not much else that needs to be said that hasn’t already been said. Goodnight folks.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:42 PM   #68
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When you lose a job you should never had to begin with does it count? Ward would even get paid for the next year and a half. It would be charity.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:42 PM   #69
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I thought Gary Bettman said they came back only to entertain us.
And.......
And......
I'm waiting .
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:42 PM   #70
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I can't even laugh at the darkness of this. It's just an acceptance that this will never change. No matter the GM, the coach, the players, this is our destiny.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:42 PM   #71
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Just to repeat my thoughts from the GT:

I agree with those that have said it's unlikely just Ward's fault. This team chronically seems to struggle with consistency, mental toughness, etc.

But, I also agree we've yet to see a coach with an established track record get a shot with this team. I think both are serious issues with this team frankly.

A Gallant/Boudreau type of coach in with a big shakeup trade is probably what's needed, but logistically I don't think Treliving makes either, especially during the season. Which only complicates the problem because the solution then is to replace Treliving, which means you're gambling that whoever comes in next doesn't also run into the blindspots.

Doing nothing though is infuriating because this is painful, boring hockey to watch for the most part.
This is true.
In this season, of all seasons, when the team and the league are trying to keep the game front of mind and garner ad revenue and TV deals, it is especially disappointing to have to be a fan.
I really hope they do make a coaching change at this point.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:43 PM   #72
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Can't make a pass. Can't win a battle. Poor decisions on just about every hockey choice they make.

They're reacting to the play, and as such behind in everything. Stopping to reach back for a pass, reacting too slow and missing any opportunity.

What a difficult team to watch and cheer for.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:43 PM   #73
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I cant think of a more disappointing Flames team. How long do they let this go on?
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What coach is going to touch this team? Career suicide.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:44 PM   #75
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Worst game I've seen them play so far this year. But it was the third in four nights.
Tried to stay optimistic, but it's almost March now. Hopefully they can win the next three.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:45 PM   #76
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Wills and Loubo going back to saying they were really good defensively against the Leafs.

These two are as lost as this team is.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:45 PM   #77
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Monahan’s comments post game sound to me like he figures there’s a real effort issue in the room. Won’t name names, and includes himself.

We can argue about whether Ward’s systems or execution are to blame but either way, he has to be the goat. They either are doing what he says and it’s not working, or he is not able to get them to do it right. I’m not big on a coach having to motivate adult players, but there it is.

The only guy I see who gives effort game in and out is Tanev. I think that’s telling.
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What coach is going to touch this team? Career suicide.
If I was Gallant, I’d hold off until Seattle decides on who they want to hire.
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:45 PM   #79
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Since the week off, in games decided in regulation the Flames have 5 wins and 10 losses. That is pretty horrendous.
Wasn’t it after a week off that they’ve sucked in each of the last 3 years?
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Old 02-25-2021, 07:46 PM   #80
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Execution is a funny thing though in that it’s a fine line and sometimes what can be seen as execution are just a couple bounces.

They got a decent break on the Bennett goal, get a couple on the PP, got some big saves (and Toronto hit 3 posts), and a game that maybe isn’t a win on another night looks great with a 3-0 shutout.

I didn’t get to watch much of the game live (just catching up now) but just reading the game thread and looking at the box score and it looks like some of the same issues were still there.

- Still gave up a fair bit in their own zone getting hemmed in a lot
- Still didn’t generate very much offence at all 5v5

Biggest difference tonight is the special teams were good and the goalie pitched a shutout (which is impressive on 3.5 expected goals against).

But that’s the big thing with this system IMO, the margin for error is so slim even when they execute within the structure (which does look like they did tonight so far).

They invite a lot of pressure in their own zone (while limiting high danger), and they don’t take many risks to generate offence at 5v5, so if your goaltending is just okay or your PP had a bad night, then it can be tough to generate the offence needed to win. And if your goaltending is bad then it can end up on a night like we saw Saturday.
This was my post after the 3-0 win against the Leafs and it feels prophetic at this point.

No margin for error with this team or system, and if your goalie has a bad night then look out.

Change the players all you want but no roster in this league would look good with Geoff Ward and this terrible system.
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