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				I expect the Jets to come out absolutely flying.  We beat them in the play-in and that memory has to be still fresh for them.  So I hope we see an absolute war tonight.  GFG!!! 
			
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Im guessing we see Lowry go after Tkachuk early on as well. Get that whole thing over with.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-14-2021, 11:34 AM
			
			
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			I think he’s answered that call already. They’ll move on IMO
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			01-14-2021, 11:36 AM
			
			
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			I hope this game gets ugly because that's always fun. 
 
 
That being said, the Jets are gonna be motivated and the Flames always suck in the opener.  Gonna be a tough one to win
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			01-14-2021, 11:38 AM
			
			
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				I hope this game gets ugly because that's always fun 
			
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If it gets ugly in Game 1, one can only imagine where things will be in Game 9.
 
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			01-14-2021, 11:46 AM
			
			
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				If it gets ugly in Game 1, one can only imagine where things will be in Game 9. 
 
This season is going to be bizarre. 
			
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Used to be that way for years through the 80's.
 
Its how the BOA really became what it was....play those pricks 8 times a year and you develop real hate for the other teams players. 
 
It was awesome.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-14-2021, 11:47 AM
			
			
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			I hope Ryan is in because he is several spots better than the Flames 12th best forward.  
 
Anyone know who the main PKers are this year? Lindholm, Backlund, Ryan, then who?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-14-2021, 11:48 AM
			
			
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				I think he’s answered that call already. They’ll move on IMO 
			
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Yeah, but it's hockey and they have to keep doing it until it's tiring and annoying. So it's likely even though he "answered the bell" he'll have to do it again just cuz "the code" or something.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-14-2021, 11:48 AM
			
			
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				I hope Ryan is in because he is several spots better than the Flames 12th best forward.  
 
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			01-14-2021, 11:50 AM
			
			
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			01-14-2021, 11:50 AM
			
			
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				One could argue that even with Ryan in the lineup that Ryan is the worst Flames player so really, what's your point? 
			
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			01-14-2021, 11:50 AM
			
			
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			Bennett can PK too.  
 
Anyways, yay for a game day! Pumped to see how Trees latest roster tinkering pans out. Let's hope we have Canucks Markstrom and not FLA Markstrom.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-14-2021, 11:53 AM
			
			
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				I hope Ryan is in because he is several spots better than the Flames 12th best forward.  
 
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Im thinking you will see Nordstrom and Ryan at the top of that list...with Lindholm and Backlund still getting some minutes but hopefully cut way back from previous seasons.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-14-2021, 11:56 AM
			
			
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According to GSVA (Game Score Value Added), Joakim Nordstrom is the worst forward the Flames have.  
 
By virtue of having him on the fourth line, the Flames have the 24th ranked 4th line and two replacement level wingers next to Sam Bennett.  
 
If they place Ryan next to Bennett, the Flames' expected win percentage goes from 51.6% (28 wins) to 52.8% (29 wins). So, putting Ryan in instead of Nordstrom means the Flames win another whole game. That's actually a pretty big impact relative to such a simple change.  
 
They can still play Nordstrom for all the Sens games and put Ryan on the taxi squad for all the days off to maximize the salary cap gains.  
 
I hope they play Ryan next to Bennett instead of Nordstrom. 
			
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Just speculating here, but there is lots of smoke around the Flames and PLD.  If they are in fact discussing a trade, that explains the Flames' squeezing the cap as hard as they are (they would still be cap compliant with a 21 man roster, including Ryan, for instance).  
 
I think it is probably pretty unanimous that Ryan is better than Nordstrom.  And while the PK argument is valid, Ryan is also one of the best PKers on the team, so pulling him to get Nordstrom's PK abilities in the lineup, is not really a gain.
 
I think they are going to try and get by with Nordstrom for a while, in order to buy some cap relief, not because they think he is a better option.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-14-2021, 12:00 PM
			
			
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			The Flames haven't won a season opener since 2009. It would be nice if they could change that tonight.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-14-2021, 12:04 PM
			
			
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				Just speculating here, but there is lots of smoke around the Flames and PLD.  If they are in fact discussing a trade, that explains the Flames' squeezing the cap as hard as they are (they would still be cap compliant with a 21 man roster, including Ryan, for instance).   
 
I think it is probably pretty unanimous that Ryan is better than Nordstrom.  And while the PK argument is valid, Ryan is also one of the best PKers on the team, so pulling him to get Nordstrom's PK abilities in the lineup, is not really a gain. 
 
I think they are going to try and get by with Nordstrom for a while, in order to buy some cap relief, not because they think he is a better option. 
			
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It is for cap room though...which is why, at times, you will see one over the other.
 
I still think you see both in the lineup more often than not though.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-14-2021, 12:05 PM
			
			
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			I think you guys will be pleasantly surprised with what you get out of Nordstrom - especially in the playoffs. The guy is all grit/heart and lays it on the line every shift. Regular season he might not blow you away (why should he - he's a 4th liner), but come post-season, he's gonna be a fan favourite. Don't be too harsh on him early - you may just have a bit of crow to eat down the road...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-14-2021, 12:06 PM
			
			
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			01-14-2021, 12:06 PM
			
			
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			Looks like Ryan sits out tonight 
 
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#Flames head coach Geoff Ward says the team has brought their entire taxi squad for tonight’s game in Winnipeg. 
 
Says that won’t be the case on shorter road trips going forward but wanted to be safe this time. No one up from the taxi squad for tonight’s game.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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