10-10-2020, 03:08 PM
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#61
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Originally Posted by agulati
It is not for exposure though. I believe they have to have atleast one goalie signed to a contract that is exposed. Didn’t flames sign Tom McCollum for this exact reason last time?
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Yeah, you might be right.
Flames have Parsons for that this time around though.
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10-10-2020, 03:11 PM
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#62
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Pat Steinberg
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Chatting with #Flames general manager Brad Treliving right now.
Says he sees Jacob Markstrom and David Rittich as the NHL goaltending tandem for next year. Says newly signed Louis Domingue is a pro and will come in and push hard for NHL minutes.
Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Treliving also stresses the importance of having NHL depth at the position for next season, whenever that starts.
Says with a likely condensed schedule, and based on the playoff bubble experience, teams will need goaltending depth with the potential of injuries. #Flames
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10-10-2020, 03:13 PM
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#63
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depth is good - injuries happen
especially in a condensed season
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10-10-2020, 03:15 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
So the organization in net now...
Markstrom
Rittich
Domingue
Parsons
Zagidulin
Wolf
Chechelev
did I miss anyone?
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10-10-2020, 03:16 PM
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#65
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Location: Vancouver
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Is the AHL even going ahead for sure? With no fans and no lucrative broadcasting deals, it’s going to be a big money pit.
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10-10-2020, 03:20 PM
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#66
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crown Royal
For goalies you just need an RFA, we signed McCollum because we didn't have anyone that was a 3+ year pro to expose; everyone was a 1-2 year pro or a UFA
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Correct and Parsons will meet that exposure requirement whether he signs a one-year or a multi-year deal this year because he will either be signed for 2021-22 or a pending RFA at the time of the expansion draft.
Domingue doesn't meet the exposure requirement anyway because he will be a pending UFA at the time of the expansion draft.
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10-10-2020, 03:23 PM
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#67
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Is the AHL even going ahead for sure? With no fans and no lucrative broadcasting deals, it’s going to be a big money pit.
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Unknown at this point.
this was their last statement released at the end of July.
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SPRINGFIELD, Mass. … American Hockey League President and CEO Scott Howson has announced a revised start date for the 2020-21 AHL season, as approved by the league’s Board of Governors during its 2020 Annual Meeting held today via conference call.
At the recommendation of the AHL’s Return to Play Task Force, the Board of Governors has approved moving the anticipated start of the 2020-21 regular season to December 4, 2020, due to the ongoing COVID-19 public health crisis. The AHL will continue to work with its member clubs to monitor developments and local guidelines in all 31 league cities.
Further details regarding the 2020-21 American Hockey League schedule are still to be determined.
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10-10-2020, 03:26 PM
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#68
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Is the AHL even going ahead for sure? With no fans and no lucrative broadcasting deals, it’s going to be a big money pit.
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Yesterday, the ECHL announced they're returning in mid-December. If they can make it work, I'd think the AHL will be able to.
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10-10-2020, 03:32 PM
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#69
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Maybe have the "AHL" play out of NHL arenas for the season. Farm league games in the afternoon, the NHL games in the evening. Probably not as simple as it sounds.
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10-10-2020, 03:34 PM
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#70
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I think it's pretty obvious Rittich is the backup and this is a depth signing which is smart.
Ward doesn't have tons of confidence in Rittich obviously, so you need some insurance.
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10-10-2020, 03:34 PM
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#71
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Lifetime Suspension
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The NHL will prop up the AHL financially for a year if they have to, the system is too important to not have it for a year.
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10-10-2020, 05:55 PM
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#72
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Maybe have the "AHL" play out of NHL arenas for the season. Farm league games in the afternoon, the NHL games in the evening. Probably not as simple as it sounds.
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I don't know if that would save them any money since air travel would be a massive expense. That's why the AHL is generally still a bus league.
I guess it could work if they had the teams travel together at all times, but that would double the number of people travelling and double the amount of equipment, so that might also cancel out any savings.
There is a potential issue of cross-border travel for the 3 western Canadian teams who have their AHL affiliates in the US. If the NHL goes ahead with the plan to have all the Canadian teams stay in Canada and play all games amongst themselves due to the 14 day quarantine requirements, that would also make it impossible for the Flames, Oilers, and Canucks to make emergency recalls from the AHL if any recalled player required a 14 day quarantine as well.
Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal already have their AHL teams in close proximity in Canada.
The Flames, Oilers, and Canucks might need to move their affiliates north of the border for the year. The Canucks don't currently share their arena with another team (there is an NLL team, but they don't play that many games) but the Flames and Oilers already have WHL teams in their arenas. If the NHL, AHL, and WHL all decide to return with compressed schedules in January, it would be difficult for 3 teams to share one building (also, there's a lack of dressing rooms in the Saddledome at least).
I suppose the Flames could put either the Heat or Hitmen into Winsport for the year. Abbotsford would be another potential option since it was an acceptable AHL building only a few years ago.
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10-10-2020, 06:05 PM
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#73
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All I can get
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Domingue I think is primarily there to push Zagidullin.
The team likes playing one prospect up against another (Rittich and Gillies, for example).
Domingue's a vet who's been in The Show and can slot in as the first injury callup (on the bench working the gate) while the other two get playing time.
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10-10-2020, 06:08 PM
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#74
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Domingue I think is primarily there to push Zagidullin.
The team likes playing one prospect up against another (Rittich and Gillies, for example).
Domingue's a vet who's been in The Show and can slot in as the first injury callup (on the bench working the gate) while the other two get playing time.
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I wonder if this signing pushes Parsons to the ECHL to be the starter there.
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10-10-2020, 06:24 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
I don't know if that would save them any money since air travel would be a massive expense. That's why the AHL is generally still a bus league.
I guess it could work if they had the teams travel together at all times, but that would double the number of people travelling and double the amount of equipment, so that might also cancel out any savings.
There is a potential issue of cross-border travel for the 3 western Canadian teams who have their AHL affiliates in the US. If the NHL goes ahead with the plan to have all the Canadian teams stay in Canada and play all games amongst themselves due to the 14 day quarantine requirements, that would also make it impossible for the Flames, Oilers, and Canucks to make emergency recalls from the AHL if any recalled player required a 14 day quarantine as well.
Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal already have their AHL teams in close proximity in Canada.
The Flames, Oilers, and Canucks might need to move their affiliates north of the border for the year. The Canucks don't currently share their arena with another team (there is an NLL team, but they don't play that many games) but the Flames and Oilers already have WHL teams in their arenas. If the NHL, AHL, and WHL all decide to return with compressed schedules in January, it would be difficult for 3 teams to share one building (also, there's a lack of dressing rooms in the Saddledome at least).
I suppose the Flames could put either the Heat or Hitmen into Winsport for the year. Abbotsford would be another potential option since it was an acceptable AHL building only a few years ago.
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This got me thinking that maybe the Flames keep three goalies in the NHL.
I also wonder if the NHL might relax rules to roster limits and paper transactions. I think the last thing the NHL would want is a team having to postpone games in a condensed schedule, or even worse, forfeit games due to the inability to recall players quickly.
I know running with 3 goalies is not ideal, but I can see it happening depending on how the farm system logistics are dealt with.
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10-10-2020, 06:42 PM
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#76
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
There is a potential issue of cross-border travel for the 3 western Canadian teams who have their AHL affiliates in the US. If the NHL goes ahead with the plan to have all the Canadian teams stay in Canada and play all games amongst themselves due to the 14 day quarantine requirements, that would also make it impossible for the Flames, Oilers, and Canucks to make emergency recalls from the AHL if any recalled player required a 14 day quarantine as well.
Winnipeg, Toronto, Ottawa, and Montreal already have their AHL teams in close proximity in Canada.
The Flames, Oilers, and Canucks might need to move their affiliates north of the border for the year. The Canucks don't currently share their arena with another team (there is an NLL team, but they don't play that many games) but the Flames and Oilers already have WHL teams in their arenas. If the NHL, AHL, and WHL all decide to return with compressed schedules in January, it would be difficult for 3 teams to share one building (also, there's a lack of dressing rooms in the Saddledome at least).
I suppose the Flames could put either the Heat or Hitmen into Winsport for the year. Abbotsford would be another potential option since it was an acceptable AHL building only a few years ago.
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The recall issue never crossed my mind.
They would either need a taxi squad, or to have them play in Canada.
Possible arena options would be:
Rogers Arena, Vancouver (Canucks)
Pacific Coliseum, Vancouver (Vacant)
Abbotsford Centre, Abbotsford (Frasier Valley Bandits)
Douglas Mitchell Thunderbird Sports Centre, Vancouver (UBC)
Chilliwack Coliseum, Chilliwack (Chilliwack Chiefs)
WinSport Arena, Calgary (Vacant)
Enmax Centrium, Red Deer (Red Deer Rebels)
Enmax Centre, Lethbridge (Lethbridge Hurricanes)
Canalta Centre, Medicine Hat (Medicine Hat Tigers)
Medicine Hat Arena, Medicine Hat (Vacant)
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10-10-2020, 07:37 PM
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#77
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I feel it’s very likely Flames are quite disappointed in how Rittich finished last two seasons, and in particular with his approach in the bubble.
I’m guessing they made it known to him at the end of year meetings and Domingue is a cheap insurance policy in case he doesn’t respond well.
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10-10-2020, 07:46 PM
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#78
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I feel it’s very likely Flames are quite disappointed in how Rittich finished last two seasons, and in particular with his approach in the bubble.
I’m guessing they made it known to him at the end of year meetings and Domingue is a cheap insurance policy in case he doesn’t respond well.
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His approach in the bubble?
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10-10-2020, 07:48 PM
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#79
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
His approach in the bubble?
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Cassie Campbell-Pascall said that she heard (from Brad Pascall presumably) that the Flames weren't happy with Rittich's practice habits in particular I believe.
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10-10-2020, 08:20 PM
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#80
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Treliving said that Parsons is dealing with an ankle injury
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Ah. There it is.
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