Time to give Tkachuk the C

[Scary Eloranta]

Does any of this matter?? So you make Tkachuk the captain and all of a sudden we’re contenders?


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[Snuffleupagus]

Gio should remain captain until Seattle selects him, speaking of that he would be a wonderful first captain for the kraken

[ricardodw]

Gio has been Flames captain for 7 years.

This was the first time that he shook hands at the end of a playoff series as a winner ... and it wasn't even real playoffs.

He would still lead by example in training and on ice effort without being captain. The only argument keeping him on as captain is to shield Tkachuk from doing more media relations.

He does not bring the rah rah rally the troops to a higher level image. There is no evidence of him kicking butt or providing motivation to the various prima donnas that have under performed on the Flames.


There does not seem to be much of a possibility of him being a coach after he retires.

I don't know if Tkachuk would be a good captain. No one rallied to his defense when Benn speared him. There are not a lot of agitator/"players on the edge" captains in the history of the league. I don't have a feeling that giving Tkachuk extra responsibilities will make him a better player.

Vegas Golden Knights have been far more successful than the Flames and they never have had a captain.

There is not the drama when shifting assistant captains around and gives a larger leadership base.

I think it is harder being a captain under low experience head coaches.

[JohnnyB]

I would not support Gio being stripped of the C at all, but I do think it's likely time to pass the mantle. Gio has been a great following act to Iginla as captain. He's been a clutch player and a model team and community member with great character. Another tough act to follow. For it to be Tkachuk's, he needs to make it clear that he's now the leader of the team and force the issue through his demonstrated leadership. I think he's pretty close on that if not quite there yet.

Whoever comes next, they better bring a competitive fire to win along with their other leadership traits.

As a side note, in the history of the Flames captaincy there has only been one season with a non-Canadian captain, and that was Conroy. Every other captain has always been Canadian. If it's Tkachuk, he would likely become the first long-serving non-Canadian captain of the Flames.

[ElPresidenti]

Originally Posted by Nsd1

Why Tkachuk though?

exactly...he was no where to be to found in this last series.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Gio should remain captain until Seattle selects him, speaking of that he would be a wonderful first captain for the kraken

If that were to happen, I would pretty happily cheer on the Kraken in their first season.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Gio has been Flames captain for 7 years.

This was the first time that he shook hands at the end of a playoff series as a winner ... and it wasn't even real playoffs.

He would still lead by example in training and on ice effort without being captain. The only argument keeping him on as captain is to shield Tkachuk from doing more media relations.

He does not bring the rah rah rally the troops to a higher level image. There is no evidence of him kicking butt or providing motivation to the various prima donnas that have under performed on the Flames.


There does not seem to be much of a possibility of him being a coach after he retires.

I don't know if Tkachuk would be a good captain. No one rallied to his defense when Benn speared him. There are not a lot of agitator/"players on the edge" captains in the history of the league. I don't have a feeling that giving Tkachuk extra responsibilities will make him a better player.

Vegas Golden Knights have been far more successful than the Flames and they never have had a captain.

There is not the drama when shifting assistant captains around and gives a larger leadership base.

I think it is harder being a captain under low experience head coaches.

I think the captains helps define the culture of the team, which is a good reason why Vegas doesn't have one. Their identity when they were built was one of "we're outcasts and we'll prove everyone else wrong"...but that was before they acquired Stone and Patches, but no one "stands above" anyone else on that team. It'll change in time.

I like the idea of Tkachuk because I'm tired of the passivity of our leadership group. Monahan, Backlund and Giordano - none of them have an edge to their game. They've also collectively fallen on their own faces every time things get tough.

I'm 100% on board for giving Tkachuk the captaincy and also making Andersson an Alternate. These guys have the tenacity that should be this teams identity going forward.

[Strange Brew]

Promote Monahan from Alternate to full Captain.

I kid. I’ve always wondered why he has a letter. I guess he was very poised as a young player and it was a symbolic way of granting leadership responsibilities to one of the younger players the team was going to build around. Without really knowing what goes on outside of the games, it doesn’t seem like a decision that has aged particularly well.

[BACKCHECK!!!]

There's a lot of words to describe players like Tkachuk. "Tries to get under his opponents skin". "Agitator". "Rat".

Call them what you like, but I've never liked players like that, even when they are big contributors.

I'll definitely take a big pass on making one the captain.

[Vinny01]

I was watching a video on TSN about the Flames loss and how Button was describing this as Tkachuk’s team and how he drags everyone into the battle (we have heard that for 4 years). That is the type of guy I want to lead the team.

This era of the Calgary Flames is about to turn over. I think Gio remains on the roster but if they are trading Monahan and Gaudreau while Brodie and Hamonic walk that is a huge turnover of this core that was built with Gio as the main leader.

Pass the torch to Tkachuk and have Gio remain as an alternate as he slides down the depth chart. Tkachuk is the face of the franchise and if this team is headed for a rebuild/retool he should emerge as the leader of that team and wear the letter.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!

There's a lot of words to describe players like Tkachuk. "Tries to get under his opponents skin". "Agitator". "Rat".

Call them what you like, but I've never liked players like that, even when they are big contributors.

I'll definitely take a big pass on making one the captain.

What "rat" stuff has Tkachuk done?

Cleanly destroyed Kassian a few times before getting jumped. Only for the media to attack him in between games and then Tkachuk fights Kassian the very next game? He hasn't done anything dirty since his first year in the league. Meanwhile Kassian was running around jumping people and kicking them in the chest just this past year.

Piss off with this stuff. Tkachuk plays the game the right way.

Tkachuk should be Captain.

[Erick Estrada]

While I think the role of a team captain is a little overrated I do think it's Gio's time to pass the baton. Under his leadership the team just hasn't overcome the hurdle of wilting under pressure. There needs to be a bit of a shakeup in the locker room and more than just moving a piece or two in and out.

[Brick]

Tkachuk already is the Captain. Make it official.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

What "rat" stuff has Tkachuk done?

Cleanly destroyed Kassian a few times before getting jumped. Only for the media to attack him in between games and then Tkachuk fights Kassian the very next game? He hasn't done anything dirty since his first year in the league. Meanwhile Kassian was running around jumping people and kicking them in the chest just this past year.

Piss off with this stuff. Tkachuk plays the game the right way.

Tkachuk should be Captain.

You may be blinded by his being such a valuable asset and good overall hockey player that he draws a lot of penalties. For such a strong guy he gets knocked over very easily, one may say Burrows-style. It might not be a good idea to have a guy that is making the refs look bad on replay be a captain to present the Flames case in a dispute.


Someone please explain why Benn did not get challenged after spearing Tkachuk in the nads. Did they think that it was an accident? or that maybe Tkachuk was overly dramatic?

[Tabaracci_31]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Gio should remain captain until Seattle selects him, speaking of that he would be a wonderful first captain for the kraken

Doug Wilson 2.0

[djsFlames]

If you believe that Tkachuk is truly a rat, then you've bought into some false media fiction/hoopla that is merely their easy way of funneling their disdain for the Flames without having to openly admit they dislike the team. It's somehow been made acceptable to hate on Tkachuk even though the actual evidence of that doesn't add up to the reputation (but I think is great for the team cause he gets under everyone's skin regardless).

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

You may be blinded by his being such a valuable asset and good overall hockey player that he draws a lot of penalties. For such a strong guy he gets knocked over very easily, one may say Burrows-style. It might not be a good idea to have a guy that is making the refs look bad on replay be a captain to present the Flames case in a dispute.


Someone please explain why Benn did not get challenged after spearing Tkachuk in the nads. Did they think that it was an accident? or that maybe Tkachuk was overly dramatic?

They were trying to win the game

[DeluxeMoustache]

^

Lucic used to play with Seguin, and any friend of his ex teammates is a friend of his?

[calgaryred]

If Gio retired tommorrow Id rather see Backlund take the C

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

If you believe that Tkachuk is truly a rat, then you've bought into some false media fiction/hoopla that is merely their easy way of funneling their disdain for the Flames without having to openly admit they dislike the team. It's somehow been made acceptable to hate on Tkachuk even though the actual evidence of that doesn't add up to the reputation (but I think is great for the team cause he gets under everyone's skin regardless).

The false media here at CP? where his predominate nickname is Chucky - after a notorious serial killer.

Anyone that calls him Chucky is funneling their disdain for the Flames?