Who do the Flames protect in the Expansion Draft?

[TheIronMaiden]

Not having to expose Valimaki is a great feeling. As it stands now, Kyllington is the most likely to get picked up by Seattle. The only way that changes imo, is if he has a break out year and he forces the Flames to protect him.

[Nelson]

F: Monahan, Gaudreau, Lindholm, Tkachuk, Bennett, Mangiapane, Dube

D: Hanifin, Andersson, Kylington, (Valimaki)

G: Markstrom

-I’m assuming Lucic waives his NMC for the expansion draft.
-I wouldn’t protect Backlund, Ryan, Gio or Tanev because I’m taking a long view.

[powderjunkie]

Preference of who we lose:
Rittich
Kylington
Backlund


Jake Allen seems like the ideal 1A for SEA. I imagine they’d try for a couple of 25-27 yo to compete for the 1B/2G, but if they think they can be immediately competitive, Rittich might be the next best guy available for a platoon (and is young enough). I think we’d be better off with a cheaper and more stable vet as backup.

I’m a toss up between the Swedes...I’m not convinced this org has the patience to develop Kylington properly, but he certainly has breakout potential.

If we’re lucky enough for Backlund to become expendable (for good reasons), then he should have the highest trade value of the lot. If he falls off early this team is screwed anyways.


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[Jiri Hrdina]

Kylington has done nothing to earn being protected. Maybe that changes this year - though I personally doubt it.
At some point potential has to translate into performance.

[SeanCharles]

I really hope to see Kylington’s game take off next season. Play him on the right side (he played there throughout his entire career prior to coming to Stockton) and give him some PP mins..

Tkachuk
Gaudreau
Lindholm
Monahan
Mangipane
Dube
Bennett

Andersson
Hanifin
Kylington

Markstrom

I don’t expect it to happen because I have a feeling the team will protect Backlund and Gio out of respect.

We will lose a good player no matter how it shakes out it seems.

If it’s me, I protect the guys on the right side of 30, unless Kylington shows no signs of progress.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Preference of who we lose:
Rittich
Kylington
Backlund


Jake Allen seems like the ideal 1A for SEA. I imagine they’d try for a couple of 25-27 yo to compete for the 1B/2G, but if they think they can be immediately competitive, Rittich might be the next best guy available for a platoon (and is young enough). I think we’d be better off with a cheaper and more stable vet as backup.

I’m a toss up between the Swedes...I’m not convinced this org has the patience to develop Kylington properly, but he certainly has breakout potential.

If we’re lucky enough for Backlund to become expendable (for good reasons), then he should have the highest trade value of the lot. If he falls off early this team is screwed anyways.


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Rittich is ufa.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Rittich is ufa.

I don’t think that matters. Engelland was picked and was going to be a UFA days later.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

I don’t think that matters. Engelland was picked and was going to be a UFA days later.

True, but the players that were exposed were pretty bad .

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

I don’t think that matters. Engelland was picked and was going to be a UFA days later.

Engelland was a special circumstance though.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Kylington has done nothing to earn being protected. Maybe that changes this year - though I personally doubt it.
At some point potential has to translate into performance.

At some point they need to give him the opportunity to reach his potential. Just like Bennett. Give him regular ice time, a good partner and a bunch of powerplay time, since that's supposed to be one of his biggest strengths anyways. Not gonna see what he can do if you don't give him the chance.


And I cannot see this team risking letting Gio go to Seattle. They'll give up a pick to keep him if they have to, but Gio is definitely going to stay in Calgary for the rest of his career.

[Phaneuf_Phan]

Let Gio go! Free up some big cap space and let's move on. This is a business of winning. He's had enough chances.

[Flamenspiel]

Gio will be protected if he is good enough to be protected, there will be no sentiments.

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by codynw

At some point they need to give him the opportunity to reach his potential. Just like Bennett. Give him regular ice time, a good partner and a bunch of powerplay time, since that's supposed to be one of his biggest strengths anyways. Not gonna see what he can do if you don't give him the chance.


And I cannot see this team risking letting Gio go to Seattle. They'll give up a pick to keep him if they have to, but Gio is definitely going to stay in Calgary for the rest of his career.

Why would you protect Gio? He is 37 years old right now. Unlikely Seattle would claim him. They want young skilled players for the future.

Yet if they did claim him all of a sudden we have a lot of cap space. They would be doing us a favour.
I like Gio and hope he retires as a Flame. No way I protect him though.

Flames probably protect Hanifin Andersson and Tanev.

Kylington is probably exposed. Hasn’t shown enough to be protected or given the opportunity. Exactly the type of player Seattle should be looking at.

For forward if Backlund is exposed they might take him. Shift Lindholm to 2c and you have Backlunds cap hit to spend on a Rwinger for the top line.

Protecting Gio is what heart wants to do, the brain says no.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan

Let Gio go! Free up some big cap space and let's move on. This is a business of winning. He's had enough chances.

He’s had enough chances? He won the Norris a year ago.

[AC]

Originally Posted by VilleN

He’s had enough chances? He won the Norris a year ago.

Gio is becoming the next star captain that parts of this fanbase turn on it seems...

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GettinIggyWithIt

This seems pretty close to me based on what we know today.

I'd say that who gets exposed between Mangiapane, Dube, Backlund and Bennett will depend on a) if we add a forward without giving up one of the 7 above, and b) how their season progresses next year. I can't see it being Dube. But could see it being one of the other 3 depending on their season. I could also see a Gaudreau trade as well though, so there's a few what if's there.

I have to believe - that at 38, they would strongly consider making Gio available if they acquired another dman or Kylington really stepped it up this year.

Yeah, to me it may end up being Backlund vs. Bennett, mostly based on Bennett improving as a regular season player.

[You Need a Thneed]

If Gio has a better year this coming year than he had last year, you consider protecting him, but if he plays the same or worse, you don’t even consider protecting him.

Why would Seattle pick a 38 year old defenseman with only 1 year left on the contract, who has almost certainly had his best years behind him.

If you think you can be as good as Vegas was in their first year, sure you might want his veteran leadership to bring the team together. But that’s unlikely.

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

If Gio has a better year this coming year than he had last year, you consider protecting him, but if he plays the same or worse, you don’t even consider protecting him.

Why would Seattle pick a 38 year old defenseman with only 1 year left on the contract, who has almost certainly had his best years behind him.

If you think you can be as good as Vegas was in their first year, sure you might want his veteran leadership to bring the team together. But that’s unlikely.

Seattle MIGHT pick Gio as a first captain, leader and top 4 defenseman. His name might be big enough to sell a few extra tickets too. Oh and he could net an early draft pick if moved at the deadline to a contender. I think they'll pick the most valuable players overall and trade excess vets for futures.

[MrMike]

If Kylington has a good enough season I’d trade him for a pick rather than just get scooped up. Some team will trade a pick for him before the expansion draft.

[getbak]

Just because of their ages, I think you have to expose Gio and Backlund.

There can be an argument for protecting Backlund over Bennett, especially depending on the status of contract negotiations with Bennett as the season progresses. I think this is either the year that Bennett breaks out and moves into the core group of the team and signs a long-term deal, or it will be his last season with the Flames. I don't think there will be a middle ground on that.

As of right now, I think you protect Tanev over Kylington, but that could change depending on what happens over the course of the season.