Extend Brodie

[Enoch Root]

It's going to be really tough to sign him, no question, there just isn't a lot of room in the budget. The bigger problem is that the kids just aren't quite ready to take over yet.

The perfect solution would be to sign Brodie to a 1-year deal. It would be good for him as well, in the sense that he would become a free agent the following year, AFTER the expansion draft. Presumably there would be a lot more teams willing to throw money at him at that point.

I know it won't happen, but one more year at $4.65M - bump it to $5M - then let the kids take over the following year.

[bigrangy]

Ideal defence for next year for me is

Hanifin-Andersson
Gio-Kylington
Valimaki-Brodie
Forbort-type

If Kylington stinks it up, out Brodie back with Gio and promote the #7 to play with Jusso

If Valimaki can play RD I’d stick him with Gio too but idk if he has ever really played there.

[Fire]

I not against bringing Brodie back but most likely it will cost too much for too long and they will definitely regret it in a season or two. Time too move on and use the cap space in a smarter way. Anything more than $4 million on a 5 year deal is too much of a risk. He's a solid 2nd pairing defenseman but you can't call him elite in any aspect of the game.

[djsFlames]

Won't be overly upset if he opts to go elsewhere, he's had quite a tenure and maybe the family wants something new, but i'd love to keep the gang together back there as I think he's been part of our success since his incident.

Him and Gio just work, and I dont know if he'll have the same success with a different partner somewhere else seeing as he didn't work as well with his rotating partners a couple years back. Although they're becoming better suited as a second pairing than first.

Valimaki will fill his shoes in a couple years i think but id prefer having both him and Brodie than one.

[Enoch Root]

Valimaki might fill his shoes in a couple years, but Gaudreau, Monahan and Giordano are here now. And Mangiapane and Dube are still cheap

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Valimaki might fill his shoes in a couple years, but Gaudreau, Monahan and Giordano are here now. And Mangiapane and Dube are still cheap

Something tells me Mang won't be cheap next season (unless he signs a 1 or 2 year deal).

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Something tells me Mang won't be cheap next season (unless he signs a 1 or 2 year deal).

Which is the point.

Waiting for defensemen to mature and fill roles they can't currently fill is a sure fire way to have your window slip away on you.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The perfect solution would be to sign Brodie to a 1-year deal. It would be good for him as well, in the sense that he would become a free agent the following year, AFTER the expansion draft. Presumably there would be a lot more teams willing to throw money at him at that point.

Doesn't make much sense for a player like Brodie after his health scare this year, but it will be interesting to see if any notable UFAs take this path.

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Which is the point.

Waiting for defensemen to mature and fill roles they can't currently fill is a sure fire way to have your window slip away on you.

It boils down to what you think the current window is open to. I suppose we're about to find out.

If you think the group as composed is a legit contender, then re-sign Brodie.

Personally, I think we need to take 1 step back (for a season or so) to hope for 2+ steps forward. On the D side, that means building pairings that set each young player up for optimal development.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Doesn't make much sense for a player like Brodie after his health scare this year, but it will be interesting to see if any notable UFAs take this path.



It boils down to what you think the current window is open to. I suppose we're about to find out.

If you think the group as composed is a legit contender, then re-sign Brodie.

Personally, I think we need to take 1 step back (for a season or so) to hope for 2+ steps forward. On the D side, that means building pairings that set each young player up for optimal development.

I agree that it doesn't make much sense (on the surface), and I presented it as a dream scenario, not any kind of prediction.

However, when you think about it, there are two MASSIVE headwinds for free agents this year: a cap that is not going up (and may still go down the following year), and the fact that there is an expansion draft at the end of the year.

Those things will definitely pour at least a little cold water on the FA feeding frenzy. At that being the case, some players may see the potential upside of signing short term for now.

[Sandman]

The word earlier this season was that Brodie would be looking for a deal out east, so his wife (and himself) could be closer to family due to his wife's circumstances. I would be very surprised if Brodie is back.

I think most of us believe that Hamonic has played his last game in Calgary.

I would love it if Tre went after Pietrangelo, even if it's at the expense of Gio-he's gone downhill over the course of this season, and I think If Brodie leaves, he will look bad out there.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Sandman

The word earlier this season was that Brodie would be looking for a deal out east, so his wife (and himself) could be closer to family due to his wife's circumstances. I would be very surprised if Brodie is back.

I think most of us believe that Hamonic has played his last game in Calgary.

I would love it if Tre went after Pietrangelo, even if it's at the expense of Gio-he's gone downhill over the course of this season, and I think If Brodie leaves, he will look bad out there.

Putting cap space aside, there's no way he signs without a NMC - which would cause all sorts of problems for the Flames at the expansion draft. Even without Brodie and Hamonic, the Flames are fine on the blue line if they retain Forbort and Gus on cheap, low-risk deals and Valimaki doesn't run into another long-term injury. They have other, more pressing needs to be addressed and Pietrangelo would be a total luxury.

Just musing, but Colorado is the only team that seems to make sense to me from a need/opportunity/cap perspective.

[FranksandBean]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Ideal defence for next year for me is

Hanifin-Andersson
Gio-Kylington
Valimaki-Brodie
Forbort-type

If Kylington stinks it up, out Brodie back with Gio and promote the #7 to play with Jusso

If Valimaki can play RD I’d stick him with Gio too but idk if he has ever really played there.

No the ideal defence next year would be;

Giordano-UFA1
Hanifin-Andersson
Valimaki-UFA2
Kylington

But this limits our ability to keep/upgrade our forwards. The way I see it would be in order of signing;

UFA1;
Pietrangelo (>6.5)
Shattenkirk (>5)
Brodie (>5)
Barrie (>5.5)
Vatanen (>5)
Tanev (>5)
Hamonic (>4)
UFA2 (>2);
Cici (>3)
Pysyk
Soucy
Gustafsson
Rutta
DeMelo

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by FranksandBean

No the ideal defence next year would be;

Giordano-UFA1
Hanifin-Andersson
Valimaki-UFA2
Kylington

But this limits our ability to keep/upgrade our forwards. The way I see it would be in order of signing;

UFA1;
Pietrangelo (>6.5)
Shattenkirk (>5)
Brodie (>5)
Barrie (>5.5)
Vatanen (>5)
Tanev (>5)
Hamonic (>4)
UFA2 (>2);
Cici (>3)
Pysyk
Soucy
Gustafsson
Rutta
DeMelo

Pietrangelo will get in the 8 million area. At least he should.

No way does Barrie get 5.5. He’ll be lucky to get 4 million.

[simonarea]

He’s been almost traded away twice at least

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go

And when was the last time Brodie played like 5+mil man without Gio on his side?

[flamesfever]

I think Brodie will be traded to Toronto.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

I think Brodie will be traded to Toronto.

Traded for what - a fourth or fifth round pick for his neg rights? He’s a UFA.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I have always looked at Brodie as part of the this core. I still think he is the best puck-mover on the Flames, and I think he is the most defensively sound defencemen on the Flames. Even last year's playoffs against Colorado, I thought Brodie was the only defencemen to not look bad, and actually covered MacKinnon fairly well, all things considered.


I think he will be a lot tougher to replace than I think people like to think. Andersson is good and only getting better, but Hanifin and Andersson is a great pairing that I think should stay together. Giordano and Brodie is an absolutely elite pairing, and as Giordano ages and Brodie eventually starts to slow down, they can move down to the 2nd pairing for a while, or at that point the Flames can make a move.


Brodie helps the Flames win now, and while looking at this team, win now is probably where the window is at. I don't know how the Flames will make it work if they end up adding Hall and not lose Gaudreau, but boy would that be such a dangerous and deep team. I am going to cling to all hope that at the very least, Brodie is re-signed. He is one of the most important cogs on this team.

[hansmoleman]

Why does everyone assume he ends up in TO? He’s from Chatham which is like an hour from Detroit. I could see them spending some bucks on D.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by hansmoleman

Why does everyone assume he ends up in TO? He’s from Chatham which is like an hour from Detroit. I could see them spending some bucks on D.

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=179751

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=179790

https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=179548

[getbak]

Originally Posted by hansmoleman

Why does everyone assume he ends up in TO? He’s from Chatham which is like an hour from Detroit. I could see them spending some bucks on D.

He's 30 years old and has already spent most of his career on a rebuilding team.

Even if he signed a long-term deal in Detroit, he'd be signing up for a few years of tough slogging before they turn things around.