30% is a hell of a lot better than nothing, especially when the lowest paid player is still a 1%er.
They know what the Covid reality is. They'll lose more by voting no.
And yes. I'd love a 30% paycut. Know why? Covid cost me my job and. 70%of my salary sounds pretty sweet.
Would be even sweeter if I was making millions like most players are.
If they don’t take 70 now there’ll never be 100 again.
I don't think this is as much of a slam dunk as people think it is.
I feel like your understanding of the situation is a little off. This protects the players from losing more than 30% in escrow, if it is less than 30% it's what they would have had to pay anyways.
Hell, if next season has to be played without fans the NHL would lose more than $2 billion in revenue and the players would be stuck paying 50%+ in escrow. Suggesting this isn't a huge win for the players is flat out wrong.
I feel like your understanding of the situation is a little off. This protects the players from losing more than 30% in escrow, if it is less than 30% it's what they would have had to pay anyways.
I understand the situation just fine.
All I said was that the thought that this is a slam dunk is misguided. If that was the case there would be an announcement and the membership would be voting on it now.
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All I said was that the thought that this is a slam dunk is misguided. If that was the case there would be an announcement and the membership would be voting on it now.
You clearly don't because this limits their exposure, the is literally 0 downside to the limit of 30% for the players and potentially a massive upside. But you are right, this isn't a slam dunk, it's like tossing a stone into the grand canyon.
If the vote fails it's more-likely to be because of concerns over COVID safety than because of the escrow changes or any of the other CBA stuff. In fact, it's possible they wanted everything to be a package deal to make it more likely that the players would vote for the return-to-play plan.
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This all seems like shuffling the chairs on the deck of the titanic to me. Luxury spending is gone for the foreseeable future and pro sports will be a major casualty. Personally I’m okay with it. Pro sports could use with some humility
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This all seems like shuffling the chairs on the deck of the titanic to me. Luxury spending is gone for the foreseeable future and pro sports will be a major casualty. Personally I’m okay with it. Pro sports could use with some humility
I think there is a possibility if next season goes ahead without fans, the professional sports business could be changed forever. The live experience may go the way of the dodo, just like everything else in society. More and more people shop, work and date from home these days. More and more inclined to be shut in from the world with access to everything at home. A couple of seasons of sports on TV only could give sports a big push in that direction.
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I think there is a possibility if next season goes ahead without fans, the professional sports business could be changed forever. The live experience may go the way of the dodo, just like everything else in society. More and more people shop, work and date from home these days. More and more inclined to be shut in from the world with access to everything at home. A couple of seasons of sports on TV only could give sports a big push in that direction.
Humans are social creatures, a year of being cooped up watching sports on TV will likely make people want the live experience more than ever.
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There are now multiple reports that the return to play plan has been finalized, and they are still working on finalizing the MOU for the CBA extension.
Once both are finalized, they will go to the BOG and the PA for approval.
You clearly don't because this limits their exposure, the is literally 0 downside to the limit of 30% for the players and potentially a massive upside. But you are right, this isn't a slam dunk, it's like tossing a stone into the grand canyon.
Yup, the CBA is a big win for the players, they are almost certainly getting more than their 50% share of HRR for a couple years.
From what I’ve heard alluded to in other reports, that overage may be clawed back later in the CBA, but in 5 years from now, a fairly large of the league’s players have been replaced by new players, and those players will generally bear that correction. At the end of this CBA, the baseline will still be 50/50.
If the large jump in the US TV deal still comes into play, as some have speculated, that will make up the overage easily.
But honestly, Edmonton is actually a pretty great place in the summer. A touch better than Calgary IMO. [ducks]
Having the mountains on the horizon will always be a trump card. That summer view driving west can't be beat.
Honestly. What pictures does Edmonton have of whom? In what world did they end up with this once in a lifetime Cup Finals? There are some great cities available to host. How on god's great green Earth has it come to this? 2020 has been throwing a total s***storm at us and above all else, IF there is a Stanley Cup Finals, it's all hosted in this unholy place?! I need an official explanation.
Having the mountains on the horizon will always be a trump card. That summer view driving west can't be beat.
Honestly. What pictures does Edmonton have of whom? In what world did they end up with this once in a lifetime Cup Finals? There are some great cities available to host. How on god's great green Earth has it come to this? 2020 has been throwing a total s***storm at us and above all else, IF there is a Stanley Cup Finals, it's all hosted in this unholy place?! I need an official explanation.
COVID cases are exploding throughout the US. Those places that aren't having problems now were the hotspots when the league was trying to narrow things down.
That pretty much eliminated 24 of the cities from being viable hosts.
Montreal is a Canadian hotspot. Ottawa's arena is in the middle of nowhere, with no quality hotels nearby for teams to stay in. BC wouldn't relax their testing and quarantine rules. Winnipeg has like 1 nice hotel and not enough room for all the teams to stay. Calgary's arena is old and doesn't have the extra dressing rooms that are needed to accommodate multiple games being played each day. There was also a large number of cases in the Calgary region when the league was identifying potential hosts (ironically, now Edmonton has more active cases than Calgary does).
Edmonton basically just hung around until all the other cities took themselves out of the running.
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But honestly, Edmonton is actually a pretty great place in the summer. A touch better than Calgary IMO. [ducks]
I'd like to hear why?
As an avid hiker that can see the mountain landscape from my deck I just can't see what edmonton can offer to make it a more enticing summer place, aside from slightly warmer evenings.
Maybe for people with more urban lifestyles that appreciate festivals, since edmonton supposedly tries its darndest to overcompensate for having no greatest outdoor show on earth with multiple inferior ones.
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They’re changing it because he was wrong, we absolutely would have lost ROR to waivers had Colorado not matched, and I imagine they would rather that situation not happen again.
Not this again.
The MOU wording:
All Players on a Club’s Reserve List and Restricted Free Agent List will be exempt from the application of CBA 13.23 Waivers in the case of a mid-season signing.
For further clarity, if Club A trades such a Player to Club B and Club B signs the Player to an SPC, such Player will be exempt from the application of CBA 13.23.
O'Reilly was on "a Club's" Reserve List, being the Avs, thus was exempt from 13.23, which is the waiver requirement.
After the MOU they changed the wording such that the player had to be on the signing Club's Reserve List, thus changing the intent and wording.
Feaster read it correctly at the time. The actual wording was changed. Calgary would not have lost O'Reilly and the picks.
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