Flames increase season tickets prices again! Update: Flames reverse price increase!

[Samonadreau]

I do feel bad for y'all, but the view from my couch is pretty good and the beer is pretty cheap too.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Personally, I already find Flames tickets to be of relatively poor value, and have found my need to go to games diminishing by the year (I was sharing seasons 4-5 years ago, and this year I haven't attended even one game). Best league in the world or not, there comes a point where it's just not worth it...especially with the questionable product on the ice this year at home.

It’s not just the ticket prices either. Even if you go for free these people actually expect you to pay $10 for a thing of nachos? Or $6 for a slice of terrible pizza? And $10.75 for a beer?

I purposely haven’t paid for a single food item this season. It’s always been a rip off but this year I’ve had enough.

I’ll just swing by McDonalds on the way there and grab a few McDoubles for $3. Better value and better food (sadly).

[mikephoen]

Rather than buy season tickets you could just buy on stubhub a few minutes before the game and go to every game for half the price (or less). That won't work for the playoffs though. But with all the money you save, you'd come out ahead every year they don't go to at least the conference finals. And that's pretty much every year ever.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Jordan!

Still??



Also nonstop Panago pizza and telus animal commercials?

Yes it's atrocious compared to TSN. Audio and video are like night and day.

[bubbsy]

Throwing a personal opinion out there...

10 years ago, where I didn't have a family, etc, I was more than happy to spend a grand or 2 a season on tickets to watch the home team ( not even 'my team') play.

The last few years I have gone to, seem SO boring regardless of the building or venue.

I mean, regardless of the arena here in Toronto, the Bell centre in Montreal, of the dome, building atmosphere is frigin dead. The only thing that gets a cheer is a goal. So if there's limited scoring, there's nothing to cheer about. There's no hits, no fights, no hate in the NHL, and it has ruined the game.

The NHL will be wondering where all the next generations of fans are gone in a decade. Hockey is getting getting boring. Game 40 in the season, 2-1 game, no big hits, no intensity, no fighting of hate,it's boring.

[rohara66]

Die hard fan, watch every game at home, have had game packs since 2006 and we think we're gonna throw in the towel. We only get a minor discount vs face value and we only get a couple playoff tickets in the nosebleeds so why bother.



We'll buy tickets to the odd extra game (always easy to get) and it almost always ends up being cheaper per ticket then our game pack prices. And we can pick non-Tuesday night Wild games that way.

[Aarongavey]

The key if you are going to keep the tickets and have a hard time affording the increase is to sell the Oilers games to Oilers fans, Canucks games to Canucks fans and the original six games to their fans. Should be able to get double face value for those games, which significantly reduces the per game cost on the remaining 35 games or so.

[Flamenspiel]

I don’t know. I am still good to go and other then high ticket prices the Flames ticket reps are generally very accommodating. It’s still a good value and unless your going to the mountains there is not a lot to do in Calgary. The half price beer and hamburger before the game is the way to go if you want food and beer at the game.

One of the things i here from Oilers fans it’s gone all weird with ticket prices since the new arena. There are very specifically targeted seats that are increased while others were actually decreased this year. So there is that, it seems like kind an airline pricing model and seats with various widths in the same section.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Throwing a personal opinion out there...

10 years ago, where I didn't have a family, etc, I was more than happy to spend a grand or 2 a season on tickets to watch the home team ( not even 'my team') play.

The last few years I have gone to, seem SO boring regardless of the building or venue.

I mean, regardless of the arena here in Toronto, the Bell centre in Montreal, of the dome, building atmosphere is frigin dead. The only thing that gets a cheer is a goal. So if there's limited scoring, there's nothing to cheer about. There's no hits, no fights, no hate in the NHL, and it has ruined the game.

The NHL will be wondering where all the next generations of fans are gone in a decade. Hockey is getting getting boring. Game 40 in the season, 2-1 game, no big hits, no intensity, no fighting of hate,it's boring.

This is precisely it. The NHL value proposition incentivizes people now to check their iPhones for scores on who’s winning and google search the free stream of games. The value proposition for fans is Awful. Eventually, revenues will reflect that. My family used to own seasons since 1996 up until 2 years ago... but wisely decided holding tickets was a complete waste of time. The other family we were very close with and shared seasons with, I would bet 95% will give up their seats now too. That family this week tried (again...) to try and get me to help GIVE their tickets away. So I asked literally 25 people and nobody would even take the free seats. Keep in mind I guess the lady is over 70, but has given the Flames over 300k and gets rewarded with more increases. It does come across as greed now for somebody like that.

Furthermore, based on last night’s performance, those 25 people probably made the right call considering 55 of the 60 minutes was horsecrap effort and they could just turn on the 3rd period to watch the interesting parts which this season seems to be the way to watch the Flames. Why bother watching periods 1 & 2 of floating when you can just watch the last period to catch all the action?

Increasing the prices? Wow. Lol and yeah. I know there are many of you complete strangers that will take free tickets. Thanks Broncos jacket guy.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

The key if you are going to keep the tickets and have a hard time affording the increase is to sell the Oilers games to Oilers fans, Canucks games to Canucks fans and the original six games to their fans. Should be able to get double face value for those games, which significantly reduces the per game cost on the remaining 35 games or so.

But you can buy those tickets in many places, including on CP, for less than face value.






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[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

I don’t know. I am still good to go and other then high ticket prices the Flames ticket reps are generally very accommodating. It’s still a good value and unless your going to the mountains there is not a lot to do in Calgary. The half price beer and hamburger before the game is the way to go if you want food and beer at the game.

One of the things i here from Oilers fans it’s gone all weird with ticket prices since the new arena. There are very specifically targeted seats that are increased while others were actually decreased this year. So there is that, it seems like kind an airline pricing model and seats with various widths in the same section.

I dont disagree that the reps are polite and nice. But really, how much value do you ascribe to that? Switching to mandatory auto-renew burned that goodwill for me.

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I dont disagree that the reps are polite and nice. But really, how much value do you ascribe to that? Switching to mandatory auto-renew burned that goodwill for me.

For me, the big decision point will be the new arena, I would say that is when I will probably give them up. Unless we are into a multi year dynasty!

[Southside]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

That’s not what I said, they do tangible things to assist you in different situations. There is also some perks that are not even related to the Flames. There is some currency in being an STH when talking to other NHL teams about tickets.

Go on. If there are benefits we're not aware of please enlighten us. Thank you.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Not a fan of paying premium seat prices for the value seats (ends and high middle). As a result I rarely attend games. Couple a season tops. That’s where the flames are at for me. Even at STH prices they feel overpriced.

I don’t even have a huge issue with the atmosphere or quality of the product.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

That’s not what I said, they can do tangible things to assist you in different situations. There is also some perks that are not even related to the Flames. There is some currency in being an STH when talking to other NHL teams about tickets. I guess it depends on your seniority, the rep, and your location.

For me, the big decision point will be the new arena, I would say that is when I will probably give them up. Unless we are into a multi year dynasty!

I'd be curious to get an example of what you mean by this. I've had my tickets for about 12-13 years, which I would guess is on the lower end for seniority. But the perks are minimal imo. Maybe you have better seats (mine are only greens) and that is why you get actual perks?

I can't imagine calling another nhl team about tickets (I've always just bought online...) but maybe if you are buying g a suite or club or something that makes sense?

**I just remembered one perk I do like - the family skate every year at christmas. My kids enjoy having a hot dog and going for a skate at the dome. Maybe that's worth $50-100/year or so?

[rage2]

Resale market has been brutal last 2 years. Only oilers fans have money. Those are the only tickets I’ve been able to sell at 3x season ticket price. I guess I’m glad that round 1 is probably a battle of Alberta series.

On the bright side, it’s forced me to go to more games with the kids, and they’re old enough to appreciate the game now and not just the snacks haha. I’m still renewing.

[calgarywinning]

Things like StubHub have been programmed to calculate supply and demand. Then they promote the tickets to sell for the average price which sets market value. Ideally, a great system.

It would be interesting to see a StubHub report on the average value of a season ticket over the course of a year versus what the STH price is for the Flames.

I do however, think StubHub has been rigged to convince people to sell for lower, and driving the resale value of tickets in general lower on all markets where the supply/demand might be even over the last couple years. They've worked hard on that algorithm to create buyers and sellers and control demand to their house advantage, which has hurt the resale market in general. Not too mention the very poor economy in Calgary.

One of the great things about last night was all of the fans, flames people who were there, and were able to get tickets super cheap at STH expense. Even though I am a STH, it was great to see a diverse crowd of young and old where this was an affordable outing. Clearly a very special one for them and those that stayed were treated to a moment that doesn't translate on TV.

End of random thoughts. Lol

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I'd be curious to get an example of what you mean by this. I've had my tickets for about 12-13 years, which I would guess is on the lower end for seniority. But the perks are minimal imo. Maybe you have better seats (mine are only greens) and that is why you get actual perks?

I can't imagine calling another nhl team about tickets (I've always just bought online...) but maybe if you are buying g a suite or club or something that makes sense?

**I just remembered one perk I do like - the family skate every year at christmas. My kids enjoy having a hot dog and going for a skate at the dome. Maybe that's worth $50-100/year or so?

Yea, I can see where you are coming from, I don’t necessarily disagree. To each his own.

[dino7c]

Its too bad the tickets are so expensive we have to fill the dome with Oiler/Canuck fans

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I'd be curious to get an example of what you mean by this. I've had my tickets for about 12-13 years, which I would guess is on the lower end for seniority. But the perks are minimal imo. Maybe you have better seats (mine are only greens) and that is why you get actual perks?

I can't imagine calling another nhl team about tickets (I've always just bought online...) but maybe if you are buying g a suite or club or something that makes sense?

**I just remembered one perk I do like - the family skate every year at christmas. My kids enjoy having a hot dog and going for a skate at the dome. Maybe that's worth $50-100/year or so?

So I have bad news and bad news. The “perks” (lol) are definitely not worth it because you could buy equivalent (better?) market value seats for probably less than whatever you’re doing as a season ticket holder (that’s the main, fundamental problem the Flames haven’t figured out yet which is weird because their package ticket prices and stubhub suggest otherwise but okay). Season tickets also assume today that owning 41 home season games isn’t the horrendous burden that it is. Specifically- selling games that you can’t make (41 games a season?!?!? Are you ####ing kidding me Flames? You’re also competing against Netflix and comfort couches don’t forget) is almost impossible.

So, Flames ticket holders, out of basically pure loyalty, are being asked to pay on average above market value prices for season long commitments (already at this point this sentence makes no sense from a pure ‘deal’ perspective). and if you can’t in your busy life subscribe at minimum 12% of your annual evenings to Murray Edwards’ and friends floating around extravaganza, you are stuck with (high) sunk costs of season tickets while on the back end they sell multigame packages?

The model is broken. Salary caps rise, players make more money, ticket prices rise, but the value just isn’t there. It’s time fans start to think about the value proposition. Hey. Man. Or woman. You are being ripped off. And if you want to go pay grown men float around- knock yourself out. I’m happy to watch in my house (for free) go to a pub (for free) or be given tickets through work. But, basically, not a ####ing chance I buy tickets to watch these guys listlessly not give a ####. How is it worth any of your time? Crazy to me. And to now get more generous... maybe not worth it to me for 41 locked in games... but every once in awhile? Okay.

How do the Flames look themselves in the mirror with firm commitments of 41 games from season ticket holders and then do absolutely sweet F all for them over 20 years? Honestly borderline white collar crime. The season ticket holders in this city- all of them- are ducking SAINTS, and this entire city owes them a HUGE amount of gratitude for the BS they have put up with over the last 30 years. Any season ticket holder over the last 30 years basically deserves a free season of season tickets next year and what will the Flames do? They’ll offer 1 free hot dog voucher that expires Oct 31 and you have to be a season ticket holder of 20 years to redeem.

The Flames should be astronomically ashamed of how they have treated Flames season ticket holders in this city. The Flames may as well ask them to show up to a meeting and systematically spit in all of their faces. It’s a joke. Plain and simple. It’s insulting. Raise the prices again! Yay! What fun.