What do you want the Flames to do at the Deadline?

[FlamesAddiction]

No rentals unless they are bargain prices.

Don't be sellers, unless it is for a massive over-payment.

Try to make a significant hockey trade if there is one to be made. This team has needed a shake-up ever since the end of April 2019. Don't make it in the hopes of salvaging this season, but as a step to move forward in general.

If there is no hockey deal (i.e. not a rental deal), then stand pat. I am fine with that.

[Eric Vail]

These are the kinds of trades I like:

• Bob McMillan and Don Lever for Lanny McDonald.
  
• Gino Cavallini, Eddy Beers and Charles Bourgeois for Joey Mullen, Rik Wilson and Terry Johnson.
  
• Steve Konroyd and Richard Kromm for John Tonelli.
  
• Mike Bullard, Craig Coxe and Tim Corkery for Steve Bozek, Mike Dark, Doug Gilmour and Mark Hunter.

I just want a win. Trade some of our players for someone else's better players, like Cliff Fletcher would.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Team traded Frolik to clear up cap space...don't pull a Feaster

Worst case they still got a 4th out of it. Already a win.

[Nabber]

I'd like to sell Hamonic if it's a pretty good return. Use the assets from that trade, or ideally a less equivalent to acquire a RHS RW/C to play top 6. Budget shop for a 4th line RW'er also, a speedy grinder.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Eric Vail

These are the kinds of trades I like:

Bob McMillan and Don Lever for Lanny McDonald.

Gino Cavallini, Eddy Beers and Charles Bourgeois for Joey Mullen, Rik Wilson and Terry Johnson.

Steve Konroyd and Richard Kromm for John Tonelli.

Mike Bullard, Craig Coxe and Tim Corkery for Steve Bozek, Mike Dark, Doug Gilmour and Mark Hunter.

I just want a win. Trade some of our players for someone else's better players, like Cliff Fletcher would.

When there was no salary cap, and contract terms and player salaries were not widely known, and when drafting and worrying about draft picks really was not much more than an after thought for NHL teams and thus not as valuable, you could do those deals.

[bubbsy]

At best, I'd like to see hamonic shipped out.

At worst, do nothing.

I see no point in making a move just to make a move (Tatar, namekstinov, etc).

Unfortunately I believe that treliving does make a move. He'll be feeling the heat for doing nothing of substance to improve the team, from last deadline, the entire offseason and now this deadline.

[transplant99]

Swing for the fences or do nothing at all.

Enough of the middling/low level "depth".

Thats why it comes down to a "hockey trade".

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

At best, I'd like to see hamonic shipped out.

At worst, do nothing.

I see no point in making a move just to make a move (Tatar, namekstinov, etc).

Unfortunately I believe that treliving does make a move. He'll be feeling the heat for doing nothing of substance to improve the team, from last deadline, the entire offseason and now this deadline.

And yet the owners of the team gave him a new contract, you know the ones, the guys you say are too cheap to pay a coach.

Only thing I would like to see is move Gaudreau out and trade Hamonic for picks.

[Aarongavey]

Sell and get future assets so they have more trading chips this summer. If you are on an expiring contract you should be available and sold off.

[mikephoen]

I'm of two minds on this.

On the one hand, I've lost all confidence in this core and this rebuild. Prices seem high this deadline, so I would blow it all up and make massive deals, preparing for either a complete ground up rebuild, or at least a very heavy retooling for 2020/21.

Alternatively... the Pacific is as bad as it ever will be. The path to the conference finals might never be easier. And once you're in the conference finals, all it takes is momentum, or a goalie getting hot, or injuries/bad luck on the other side, and you can be in the cup final where anything can happen. Pushing all in with whatever it takes to add to the top 6, with a right shot RW or an upgrade at Centre. And maybe an upgrade on defence or another right shot RW.

Doing nothing or almost nothing seems like the worst plan. Losing both Brodie and Hamonic in the summer for nothing, while another year ticks off the value contracts of Gaudreau, Monahan, Lindholm and Tkachuk and Gio nears the end of his time as a top pairing Dman, seems really weak. It's just accepting mediocrity as good enough.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I think trading Hamonic for anything right now is prudent. Yes he is hurt, but I am sure there is a team that will take him on if the price is right (well, hopefully anyway). The reason I want this done is how terrible he looked against the Avs last playoffs, and especially because I don't want Treliving to re-sign him, especially for a significant raise with term. I see him as a 3rd pairing player - or at least a player that will be on the third pairing within the next couple of seasons.


I really want Brodie re-signed. Badly. However, if his intention is in fact to move to a warmer climate (something I can respect - family always comes first), then I would move him this deadline for someone else. I wouldn't sell on him unless necessary, but Treliving just has to get something for him.


The only thing I really hope for is no rentals at all - not even for 6th and 7th round picks. I especially don't want that first to be traded for anything - well, unless another team wants to be absolutely stupid with the return on the 1st.


Tough time. If the Flames were 4 or 5 points back from the last wildcard spot, I would be hoping that they sell. I think a lot of what ails this team is coaching, and thus I don't necessarily prescribe to the notion that this team needs to be 'blown up', but there are definite holes on this roster, and even if there wasn't, a team should always look to upgrade whenever possible.


I am just really curious what happens tomorrow, and what ends up happening through the off-season. No idea if Treliving is going to get a new coach or not, or if (or how much) he is going to change the core up. Fascinating times ahead.


Edit: People state that the Pacific is wide-open this year, but I also think that this Flames team is very 'wide open' as well. I am not confident that they would enter the playoffs and actually win a round against anyone they match up against, but I also think they could beat any team in the playoffs at the same time if they get hot. They are so inconsistent. The worst case for me is being buyers, entering the playoffs and matching up against another Pacific team, and then losing. I am not so sure that wouldn't happen... that's just how inconsistent this team seems to be on any given night.

[bubbsy]

No way treliving doesn't do something tomorrow.

Flames are the only team in the Pacific playoff picture who have done nothing to improve this deadline ( well in a whole calendar year, but who's keeping track...)

[GioforPM]

Those who want Hamonic traded - I think you get a no more than a 4th for him now, given his injury.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by gioforpm

those who want hamonic traded - i think you get a no more than a 4th for him now, given his injury.

sold!

[browna]

I’d love the Flames to be active and go for it. Not at all costs but at a cost that will make some people here scream from the rooftops...but that overreaction will happen here anyways no matter what happens tomorrow, and it will be many of the same crew screaming in any event as well.

The division stinks, and the conference isn’t stellar, and by the time you may get to those teams outside the division, momentum and injuries take over in the playoffs. Go on a 3 or 4 game heater here and you’re in good shape...roster has underperformed, give it a jolt and a boost for them to refocus and maybe re-energize and see where that takes them.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

sold!

I know you think it’s addition by subtraction, and I disagree. But honestly, I think some people here still, think he’s going to get a second. Healthy, that would be the case. I think he’s a playoff maybe. So he’s getting token amount in a trade.

I would rather keep him and not extend if the Flames are making the POs. I’d much rather see him in the lineup than Stone.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I know you think it’s addition by subtraction, and I disagree.


I would rather keep him and not extend if the Flames are making the POs. I’d much rather see him in the lineup than Stone.

The question isn't if Hamonic's in the lineup over Stone. It's if Hamonic's in the top 4 over Andersson or Brodie. I have zero faith in this coaching staff to slot guys correctly. They're still slotting Stone incorrectly.

As long as the coaching staff has access to Stone or Hamonic, it's subtraction by addition. Ship em both off.

[Freddy]

Sell Brodie for a kings ransom and acquire Athanasiou in a hockey trade (that doesn’t include Mangiapane, Rasmus, or Rittich).

[TheScorpion]

For what it's worth, the Flames made exactly two trades in 2019:

Neal for Lucic
4th for Fantenberg

I wouldn't be going into tomorrow expecting much. Lately, Treliving is just not a very active GM when it comes to making trades.

[Manhattanboy]

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