NBC suspends Jeremy Roenick for inappropriate remarks

[Tyler]

Statement from Kathryn Tappen on Jeremy Roenick:

“While Jeremy and I continue to be good friends, what he said was unacceptable, especially among workplace colleagues. I do not condone his comments.”

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Statement from Kathryn Tappen on Jeremy Roenick:

But doesn't she know that JR (a sports legend, apparently) was hired to say controversial things like this and she was hired largely based on T&A?


Didn't she listen to the whole interview? What he said was respectful.


If that offended her why doesn't she just limit what she listens to?


Does she even care how this might affect anecdotes on Spittin' Chiclets?!


Etc.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by kermitology

I’m not sure why you rephrased rape.

Did I do that? Didn't mean too.

[GreenLantern2814]

I just think it's interesting JR got suspended for this, but not for the time he faked a murder to prank some teammates in San Jose.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

This thread site is a great example of a bunch of (mostly) white men telling other (mostly) white men how they should feel their thoughts about an incident...

FYP. Not sure anyone's telling anyone how they should feel...we're all just sharing our perspectives & opinions.

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

While I generally speaking do agree with you I wonder why we care so much about people being offended? Not necessarily this incident or context but there seems to be a lot of arenas lately where the social contract is being restructured around who or what is being “offended”. In a wildly diverse world we truly are bound to offend people eventually one way or the other across different degrees and at some point whether people are “offended” or not should probably stop mattering.

It's a great question...I don't think being 'offended' or not is really the crux of the issue. IMO it's more about recognizing how much different people's life experience varies based on silly little things like skin colour and gender.

We tend to view these incidents in a vaccuum - like it's the only occurrence. I think this is especially true when we try to put ourselves in the 'victim's' (for lack of a better word in this case) shoes. Most of us can imagine how it would suck to be objectified like this; what is much harder to imagine is having similar interactions/experiences dozens of times a day, every. single. day. (not always as public/brash as this particular incident, but also not always as 'light-hearted' or coming from a friend).

I'm not sure how much we need to know Tappen's personal feelings on this to be able to judge Roenick's words...I would bet her feelings could be summed up as follows: The fact that this is probably just another eyeroll worthy event in her life is a sad reflection on society as a whole.

That said, Roenick isn't being punished for our collective ignorance, only his own.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

While I generally speaking do agree with you I wonder why we care so much about people being offended? Not necessarily this incident or context but there seems to be a lot of arenas lately where the social contract is being restructured around who or what is being “offended”. In a wildly diverse world we truly are bound to offend people eventually one way or the other across different degrees and at some point whether people are “offended” or not should probably stop mattering.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Statement from Kathryn Tappen on Jeremy Roenick:

Sounds like she doesn't want him to get fired, but does want him to sit in the box (not hers) and feel some shame.

Which is fine. Seems like the way things like this should be dealt with.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Assuming there aren't any other incidents, JR should apologize to her, accept the suspension and that should be about it. It was a dumb joke gone bad.

[Manhattanboy]

Something odd about this pic.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Sounds like she doesn't want him to get fired, but does want him to sit in the box (not hers) and feel some shame.

Which is fine. Seems like the way things like this should be dealt with.

She's also drawing a clear line between a personal and professional relationship. What it may be okay to joke and talk about privately as friends and among friends is different than what's acceptable to joke and talk about publicly.

[Savvy27]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

She's also drawing a clear line between a personal and professional relationship. What it may be okay to joke and talk about privately as friends and among friends is different than what's acceptable to joke and talk about publicly.

Well with this there is no question now that he crossed the line with her as well as the people at NBC.

Having a personal and professional face is an awkward position for Roenick as it undermines his appeal as an authentic guy who speaks his mind and doesn't try to be discreet to avoid controversy.

Obviously he has had his hand slapped on this one, so it will be interesting to see if and how he changes post-suspension.

[EldrickOnIce]

It does not surprise me that the garbage that is spittin chiclets finally got someone in trouble.
Too bad it was JR - one of my all time favorites

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

It does not surprise me that the garbage that is spittin chiclets finally got someone in trouble.
Too bad it was JR - one of my all time favorites

What? That was all JR, one chiclets guy went "woah, careful, coworker" After the story biz even made a point to ask and talk about how great she is

If you're as big of a fan of Roenick as you claim you know this is exactly the type of thing he says on his own, nobody else pressured him too

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by btimbit

What? That was all JR, one chiclets guy went "woah, careful, coworker" After the story biz even made a point to ask and talk about how great she is

If you're as big of a fan of Roenick as you claim you know this is exactly the type of thing he says on his own, nobody else pressured him too

Yeah, they made multiple attempts to try and stop him.

"This is a family program"
"Careful, she's your co-worker"
"She's like a daughter to you"
(quotes not exact)

And then got him to pull a 180 when they asked him if she ever talks about how hard it is to be a woman in a male-dominated industry.

They kind of had that forced awkward laugh but they clearly knew he was crossing a line and threw him a couple lifesavers that he swam right by.

It was also apparent that Roenick came on simply to tell that story. No segway, no nothing, just "I"m Roenick and I have a hot coworker who I want to bang." Still can't believe people think that's acceptable, but then again we're a generation or two away from people thinking it was okay to slap a female colleague on the ass for a job well done.

[corporatejay]

I thought the co-hosts handled that pretty well and professionally all things considered.

[DirtyMike]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

I thought the co-hosts handled that pretty well and professionally all things considered.

Well considering the JR interview was pre-recorded a few weeks ago and then part of the editing process into the podcast, they could have simply edited out or excluded the JR interview altogether. This wasn’t a live interview so the chiclets crew had plenty of time after to decide it wasn’t appropriate and not air it.

[1Nite]

She has said her part and he apologizes to her, and hope that they can continue to work together.



On a different note, I really wish Bennett could turn into a player like JR was.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by DirtyMike

Well considering the JR interview was pre-recorded a few weeks ago and then part of the editing process into the podcast, they could have simply edited out or excluded the JR interview altogether. This wasn’t a live interview so the chiclets crew had plenty of time after to decide it wasn’t appropriate and not air it.

Unless JR told them to take it out, I can't imagine why it would be the responsibility of Spittin Chiclets to remove it. It's no more disrespectful than the way Biz talks about women every episode.

The only differences are a) Roenick named the chick and b) she works for NBC.

[heep223]

Morality debate aside, Roenick is a ######bag. In this day and age when we all know better, he clearly cares more about pumping himself up than in being an adult.

Can you imagine Hrudey or Ball doing something like this. No you can’t. Because they’re classy professionals.

[Northendzone]

To me this is a comment you share with your buddies in a locker room.

Roenick has been in the media long enough to know that these comments would not fly under the radar - especially where we are at today.

Will be interesting to see if NBC fires him or eventually brings him back