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bax · 10-28-2019, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Fourth trade is Ben Bishop.

I also have to give a big fat LOL at including Lucic in “big name trades.”

No need for an LOL- I'm not implying Lucic is a stud, just saying that is a trade with huge salary being moved and was obviously going to be a headliner grabber. He isn't afraid to make moves.

Why did a Bishop trade fall through? I'm not familiar with the story here. What were we going to give up?

Itse · 10-28-2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Good lord this team is a mess.

I don't get what Peters is doing this season.

He just keeps shuffling the lines as if that's the problem, when it's pretty clear there's more going on. He seems to have zero patience with mistakes or bad play, to the point of being ridiculous. How is anyone supposed to find their game when there's no stability.

dino7c · 10-28-2019, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ricardodw

Try explaining why Jankowski wasn't waived.

11 games 10:53/game 7 sog -7 and 2 hits.

This is from a guy that is 6-4 220 and skates well and supposed to be close to being a top-6 player or at least a strong #3C.

I think you answered you own question...

btimbit · 10-28-2019, 02:12 PM

Janko would be more trade bait than waiver fodder

mrdonkey · 10-28-2019, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Itse

I don't get what Peters is doing this season.

He just keeps shuffling the lines as if that's the problem, when it's pretty clear there's more going on. He seems to have zero patience with mistakes or bad play, to the point of being ridiculous. How is anyone supposed to find their game when there's no stability.

I don’t get it either. Very reminiscent of those frustrating Gulutzan years. Let’s just say I’m really glad we have our 1st and 2nd round picks this year.

Cali Panthers Fan · 10-28-2019, 02:29 PM

This is a little surprising considering we aren't even a full month into the season. I doubt he gets claimed, but it would hurt the organizational depth to lose him. I figured they would give him more time to show something, and I thought he was okay most of the time.

Flash Walken · 10-28-2019, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Itse

I don't get what Peters is doing this season.

He just keeps shuffling the lines as if that's the problem, when it's pretty clear there's more going on. He seems to have zero patience with mistakes or bad play, to the point of being ridiculous. How is anyone supposed to find their game when there's no stability.

There are obviously internal issues at play here.

I may be accused of being alarmist, but it's possible Peters has already lost the room.

He is a tough coach.

Bingo · 10-28-2019, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

The Flames AGM went on television and said they thought they had the deal done Saturday night.

Not only did the Flames think they could or should do it, they thought they had done it.

That doesn't really change his point though.

They could have thought they had a deal until Vegas entered the picture and/or upped their offer.

Maybe Stone saw Vegas and that was that.

We really don't know.

GreenLantern2814 · 10-28-2019, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

There are obviously internal issues at play here.

I may be accused of being alarmist, but it's possible Peters has already lost the room.

He is a tough coach.

Every coach in the NHL is tough. I'm going to need to see a lot more (or less, as it were) from a team that finished first in the conference six months ago before I entertain notions of the coach losing the room.

No meltdowns, no blowouts, no calling out of star players, no scratching anyone significant to send a message - we're not even out of October yet. Nor is the team even out of a playoff spot.

Relax.

Bingo · 10-28-2019, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Itse

I don't get what Peters is doing this season.

He just keeps shuffling the lines as if that's the problem, when it's pretty clear there's more going on. He seems to have zero patience with mistakes or bad play, to the point of being ridiculous. How is anyone supposed to find their game when there's no stability.

That's a Canadian market though.

If a guy has all his top players save a couple off to slow starts and doesn't change anything he would be crucified on this site.

The Flames are not dialed in at this point, you can see it in the lack of focus on details (face offs, zone coverage).

They have the 5th worst PDO in the league right now, and are very likely to turn it around.

I don't love the way they're playing shift to shift, but it's early ... way more important to get the lines and the play set by March this year in my mind. Don't really care how the regular season goes as long as they get a spot.

Hot_Flatus · 10-28-2019, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

That's a Canadian market though.

If a guy has all his top players save a couple off to slow starts and doesn't change anything he would be crucified on this site.

The Flames are not dialed in at this point, you can see it in the lack of focus on details (face offs, zone coverage).

They have the 5th worst PDO in the league right now, and are very likely to turn it around.

I don't love the way they're playing shift to shift, but it's early ... way more important to get the lines and the play set by March this year in my mind. Don't really care how the regular season goes as long as they get a spot.

It's certainly concerning that the top 6 now consists of Quine and Bennett. Two guys who would certainly be in very few, if any, playoff teams top 6 for an extended period. The depth is an issue that could limit the Flames potential to just get in. I'm hopefully it sorts itself out soon, but I don't see any easy answers unless Dube or Mangiapane suddenly take one of those spots and run with it.

The Cobra · 10-28-2019, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bax

Why did a Bishop trade fall through? I'm not familiar with the story here. What were we going to give up?

IIRC, trades at that time had to be signed off by Murray Edwards, and his mouthpiece (Ken King) was on a plane at the time. So, they ran out of time.

I think that was the theory.

bubbsy · 10-28-2019, 03:50 PM

am a bit behind on this. Is this to make space for a healthy body coming back? Another forward from Stockton being called up? possible trade?

I am not sure if moving a player off the roster was urgently required, necessitating this move.

Psytic · 10-28-2019, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Itse

I don't get what Peters is doing this season.

He just keeps shuffling the lines as if that's the problem, when it's pretty clear there's more going on. He seems to have zero patience with mistakes or bad play, to the point of being ridiculous. How is anyone supposed to find their game when there's no stability.

I don't mind the blender. Try it all now before we get too deep into the season while there is still time. They might be targeting a second line LW and are testing out these lines combos to see if Chucky works as a RW ahead of time who knows.

CalgaryFan1988 · 10-28-2019, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Toonage

Quine on 2L screams a period at most. Sorry. I like the guy but that's a miscast.

Place-holder for Johnny after the trade is complete.....

Tkachuk - Lindholm - Toffoli
Johnny - Monahan - Bennett

Flash Walken · 10-28-2019, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Itse

I don't get what Peters is doing this season.

He just keeps shuffling the lines as if that's the problem, when it's pretty clear there's more going on. He seems to have zero patience with mistakes or bad play, to the point of being ridiculous. How is anyone supposed to find their game when there's no stability.

There are obviously internal issues at play here.

I may be accused of being alarmist, but it's possible Peters has already lost the room.

He is a tough coach.

powderjunkie · 10-28-2019, 04:11 PM

I guess it turns out Rieder was the problem all along and winning really does follow Neal around...

Flash Walken · 10-28-2019, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

That doesn't really change his point though.

They could have thought they had a deal until Vegas entered the picture and/or upped their offer.

Maybe Stone saw Vegas and that was that.

We really don't know.

Upped their offer to...*checks notes* brannstrom and a 2nd?

MrMike · 10-28-2019, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

There are obviously internal issues at play here.

I may be accused of being alarmist, but it's possible Peters has already lost the room.

He is a tough coach.

You could say that again.

DeluxeMoustache · 10-28-2019, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash Walken

There are obviously internal issues at play here.

I may be accused of being alarmist, but it's possible Peters has already lost the room.

He is a tough coach.

You don’t have to tell me twice!