06-17-2019, 10:21 AM
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#61
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Igottago
I don't think its unreasonable, probably the price to be paid for an elite player entering UFA. People are acting like he's already 37...he's 29. Should have a lot of good hockey in front of him.
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He is missing a chunk of his ankle.
This is never going to heal. Ever.
Karlsson referred to this as "the new normal" and proceeded to rip his groin trying to adjust and compensate for his lack of speed.
The real "new normal" is a career of constant injuries.
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06-17-2019, 10:39 AM
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#62
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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$53 million in signing bonuses
CapFriendly @CapFriendly
Erik Karlsson #Sharks
8 years / $11.5M AAV ($92M Total)
2019-20: $3.5M + $11M SB
2020-21: $2M + $10M SB
2021-22: $5.5M + $9M SB
2022-23: $2M + $10M SB
2023-24: $10.5M + $1M SB
2024-25: $10M + $1M SB
2025-26: $4M + $5M SB
2026-27: $1.5M + $6M SB
Full NMC
CapFriendly @CapFriendly
With the #Sharks re-signing pending UFA and 2x Norris trophy winner, Erik Karlsson to an 8 year, $11.5M contract, the club now has $12.5M in projected cap space with a roster of 16 (7F 7D 2G)
Notable free agents:
Thornton
Pavelski
Meier
Labanc
Nyquist
Last edited by sureLoss; 06-17-2019 at 10:42 AM.
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06-17-2019, 10:40 AM
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#63
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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06-17-2019, 10:50 AM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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well that was cringey
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06-17-2019, 10:54 AM
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#65
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary
i like the guy, but man, that is a big contract for a guy with his injury history...
we'll revisit this at the halfway point and see whether its become a bargin or an anchor
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I'm not sure that matters to SJ. It will never be a bargain. Their window is now, that's the price of playing the UFA game.
If you refuse to sign any contract in which the end doesn't look bad, you should simply stay at home on UFA day.
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06-17-2019, 11:01 AM
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#66
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In the Sin Bin
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Fortunately for the Sharks, they only have two NMCs - Karlsson and Vlasic. So they shouldn't end up in an expansion draft disaster.
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06-17-2019, 11:06 AM
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#67
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by codynw
If you have a chance to sign one of the best defenceman in the world, you do it and figure out the salary cap later. If Giordano can be a Norris finalist (winner) at 36, Karlsson can be too. Injuries are the only concern here, but I think everyone is making them a bigger deal than they actually are.
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Agreed. I'd defer to Doug Wilson's judgement here. Great GM with a long proven track record. Give me one example of a bad trade or bad contract he has signed. If he's giving him 8 years, I'll bank on him having a solid diagnosis and reason to believe that Karlsson will recover his previous form.
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06-17-2019, 11:09 AM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Thank goodness. I thought the Habs might go after him. They're already going to be stuck with an old, less mobile defenseman on a long deal. They don't need two of those guys.
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06-17-2019, 11:14 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
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The contract is pretty much buyout protected (no real savings in cash or cap the last couple years) but the structure would also make it pretty easy for him to lace it up (or move if they agree to it) during that last year if he was running on fumes. So really 7 years of liability (at a 88M price).
And another top-tier player who is overpaid. Did you guys learn nothing from The Incredibles? "And when everyone is overpaid, no one will be."
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06-17-2019, 11:15 AM
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#70
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#1 Goaltender
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So is Pavelski leaving or taking a huge discount?
Don’t really see how the numbers work out here
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06-17-2019, 11:23 AM
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#71
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Doug Wilson right now
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06-17-2019, 11:28 AM
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#72
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I wish we had the cap space to offer Pavelski a 1 year $12M deal.
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06-17-2019, 11:29 AM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Closet Sharks fan.
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06-17-2019, 11:29 AM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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The standard contract for star players is getting absurd. I understand the money, but the term teams are willing to go is out of hand.
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06-17-2019, 11:38 AM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codynw
If you have a chance to sign one of the best defenceman in the world, you do it and figure out the salary cap later. If Giordano can be a Norris finalist (winner) at 36, Karlsson can be too. Injuries are the only concern here, but I think everyone is making them a bigger deal than they actually are.
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Exactly this. Karlsson is going to be very impactful for the length of this contract.
He will win at least one more Norris.
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06-17-2019, 11:39 AM
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#77
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sadly not in the Dome.
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At one point wasn't Karlsson on for 11 of St. Louis' first 12 goals? I know he was hurt but I think his poor defensive play really got exposed coming to the west. Good for the Sharks I guess just glad Calgary was no where near this.
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06-17-2019, 11:42 AM
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#78
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Help, save, whatever.
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I thought San Jose was pushed tight against the cap?
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06-17-2019, 11:42 AM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Galakanokis
At one point wasn't Karlsson on for 11 of St. Louis' first 12 goals? I know he was hurt but I think his poor defensive play really got exposed coming to the west. Good for the Sharks I guess just glad Calgary was no where near this.
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He couldn't move laterally because his groin was held together with scotch tape and dreams.
"Erik Karlsson is bad defensively" is a tired narrative that has been disproven more times than a 9/11 conspiracy. He can get danced. He can lose his man. So can Gio. It doesn't make either bad defensively, it's just what happens when you play against the other team's top line 25 minutes a night.
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06-17-2019, 11:44 AM
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#80
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Help, save, whatever.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
IMO he is better than John Tavares for the same money but obviously health is a question mark
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I think Carey Price is better than both of them...
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