04-01-2019, 11:16 AM
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#61
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Calgary
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I’ve heard homeless shelters have asked not to give money to panhandlers. I think it’s because it encourages substance abuse but maybe i’m wrong? If you want to help or donate then give directly to the mustard seed.
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04-01-2019, 11:16 AM
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#62
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Calgary
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Dp
Last edited by stampsx2; 04-01-2019 at 11:19 AM.
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04-01-2019, 11:24 AM
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#63
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Does anybody here actually give money to these intersection panhandlers, and if so, what's your rationale? Whenever I see someone do this, my jaw drops. It just seems really really really dumb.
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It's just misplaced human compassion. It's the wrong move for sure, but there's a reason they go there and do it.
They put a sad, awful situation right in the face of every day people and we're triggered to help an immediate struggling human being in front of us.
I appreciate that we have to understand it isn't the right move as a society, but I hate hate hate when people call the change givers dumb or stupid.
It's human nature to help those around us, and our empathy and compassion overcomes rational thought from time to time.
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04-01-2019, 11:27 AM
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#64
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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I almost never do it, but once I did because for whatever reason (long light, change in the holder, really sad looking person).
For sure nobody should do it, but it's a little obtuse in my opinion for posters to act like they can't figure out why anyone would be so stupid. It's compassion, it's why they canvass there.
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04-01-2019, 11:33 AM
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#65
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Where are you stationed again? Ontario, right?
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Correct.
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🚨Wee Woo! 🚨Wee Woo!🚨Stop!🚨
fish and game are not humans
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04-01-2019, 11:40 AM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Fuzz is now confused whether Disentowner is The Fuzz or not.
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04-01-2019, 02:22 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
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This needs to catch on as the go-to response any time someone posts a thread in the FOI forum addressed to the Calgary flames organization or the NHL, congratulating them or telling them they need to do something.
That is all.
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04-01-2019, 02:31 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
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I mean, it’s possible that his picnic basket has been upgraded to a gun and a badge. Terrifying, but possible.
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04-01-2019, 06:52 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by chemgear
They're getting more and more aggressive. Somebody was killed earlier this month panhandling on Southland Drive.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...lers-1.4809920
"I was out of work for quite a while … and I was just doing this on and off because I seen other people doing it and I did extremely good at it, actually — like really, really good at it."
So good, in fact, that Jonas says he does "extremely well" on his best days, and his worst days are "still really good."
How good?
"On a good day, I can make $400 doing this in three hours."
The key to Jonas's success? Getting away from downtown and into the city's suburbs.
Jonas's income claims don't surprise Const. Jessica Wood, who is the community resource officer for the Calgary Police Service in the downtown area.
"If it wasn't lucrative for the people who are panhandling, they wouldn't continue with the behaviour," Wood said.
"I have heard that people can make upwards of a hundred dollars an hour, so that sounds about right to me."
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They make more money a day then the idiots giving them money and it's tax free!
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04-01-2019, 07:02 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
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I think there was a cop at the intersection of Edmonton Trail and Memorial Drive today. There has been the same two people there for a long time but today those two were gone and this new guy showed up. He walked down the middle lane not the sidewalk like the others. And he didn't even seem to want money, no hat or cup or sign or anything. He was just really obviously looking in people's cars. He never even made eye contact with me. I'm calling narc.
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04-01-2019, 07:22 PM
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#71
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Offered up a bag of cans for a custom user title
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Westside
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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger
Panhandling is restricted in Calgary, but not illegal. There is an Act that governs when, where and how. This page has an overview, and a link to the Act itself: http://www.calgary.ca/CSPS/ABS/Pages...nhandling.aspx
Having them wander in traffic is a bigger issue, and a big problem on its own.
The problem is, as btimbit pointed out, there's precious little that can actually be done about it that is an effective deterrent. Police go and move the person on? Person (or another one) comes back. Police give a fine? If person can pay, they generally won't anyhow. Police 'sit' at one intersection that is popular with them? They go to another. Police probably get over 100 calls a day about people panhandling in and around various places (especially intersections) but there is, honestly, precious little that they can effectively DO about it.
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Man, it almost sounds just like speeding...oh wait...
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04-01-2019, 08:08 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza
Man, it almost sounds just like speeding...oh wait...
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I realize you are being tongue in cheek, but I will point out that, despite what it looks like on this board, I deal with way, WAY more speeding complaints than I ever have about panhandlers. Squeaky wheel, and all that...
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04-01-2019, 08:11 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Please delete!
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04-01-2019, 08:12 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by stampsx2
I’ve heard homeless shelters have asked not to give money to panhandlers. I think it’s because it encourages substance abuse but maybe i’m wrong? If you want to help or donate then give directly to the mustard seed.
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Well, they are most likely panhandling to feed a substance abuse issue. In that case, they will find the money some way or another. I don't think that possibility decides the issue one way or another, but it certainly complicates it, yes?
Like, the Mustard Seed can't buy heroin for someone suffering from an addiction disorder.
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04-01-2019, 08:14 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Well holy crap, welcome back peter.
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04-01-2019, 08:16 PM
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#76
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Lol, Peter back a third time, but can't let that horrible MMF back ever!!
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04-01-2019, 08:26 PM
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#77
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by peter12
Please delete!
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What an epic first post after being away for so long!
Edit: wait, nope, second post.
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04-01-2019, 08:44 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Section 203
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Originally Posted by jayswin
Lol, Peter back a third time, but can't let that horrible MMF back ever!!
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What a strange April fools day joke.
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I should probably stop posting at this point
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04-01-2019, 10:30 PM
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#79
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evil of fart
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Well lookie what we have here. Welcome back, Peter!
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04-02-2019, 09:32 AM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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It is really disappointing when I was simply trying to take place in a discussion only to be personally attacked and ridiculed for no reason. CP should be better than that. I will stay away from discussions like this as I did before.
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