View Poll Results: In accordance with the stipulated conditions, what should the Flames do by Monday?
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Add top 6 forward and give up major assets
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29.71% |
Add depth forward and give up minor asset
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60 |
21.74% |
Add depth Dman and give up minor asset
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25 |
9.06% |
Add starting goalie and give up major assets
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2.17% |
Add backup goalie and give up minor asset
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2.54% |
Stand pat with no moves at deadline since we are deep and have a long contender window
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90 |
32.61% |
Sell something at deadline for offseason cap space relief and a draft pick given how deep the team is
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2.17% |
02-24-2019, 08:51 AM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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^Mony has 4 years left until UFA.
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02-24-2019, 08:59 AM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I feel the Flames, Jets, and Preds are all zeroed in on either Stone or Hayes. I think those 2 players go to one of those 3 teams (not the same team). If the Flames are the team that ends up empty handed there I think the team shifts to depth moves and ends up doing very little.
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02-24-2019, 10:36 AM
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#63
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ottawa ON
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Originally Posted by zoller
tradeable players who hold positive value:
Bennett
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no.
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02-24-2019, 11:11 AM
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#64
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Powerplay Quarterback
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gotta give to get
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02-24-2019, 11:17 AM
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#65
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: The Armpit of BC: Trail
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I wanted to stand pat originally, however the more I think about it, the more I want to pick up Stone, Kreider, or Hayes. In that order. Picking up one of those three would bolster our scoring, and make us even more of a thread in the playoffs. I really, really want Stone now.
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02-24-2019, 11:55 AM
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#66
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First Line Centre
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I think making a major trade in order to go for the SC carries a number of high risks:
1. upsetting the chemistry by acquiring a player that doesn't fit in.
2. putting the cap situation out of whack.
3. sacrificing the future by trading our prospects or picks.
I'm saying this because I think we presently have everything in place that almost guarantees that we will have a good team for a long period of time if we continue on our present path. I think this is particularly important for the Flames, as we are going to need to fill the stands for the next number of years in order to finance a new stadium.
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02-24-2019, 12:26 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
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Those concerns are valid but what keeps me on board is the age of all the key players. Other than Gio and Backlund, it's like a college campus.
Lots of future with this core.
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02-24-2019, 12:27 PM
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#68
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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As much as Stone would be a great add for playoff run.
The cap space math just does not add up for me to make it all work unless we are giving up an unexpected core piece in this deal for Stone which reduces the net gain for the franchise going forward.
A depth forward with top 6 potential makes more sense.
83 million estimated cap space 2019-20 season.
66.1 million currently committed to that takes into account no Smith contract next year. So 16.9m to work with. (capfriendly.com)
Lets say we are able to move Frolik and Brodie for picks/prospects. That adds another 8.95m to cap space.
That leaves us with 25.85m to work with. Even with BT wizardry we still have to pay:
Stone 9+m (lets say 9.3m). Open market could be 10m.
Tkachuk at least 7.5m
Bennett around 3m.
Rittich 3+m (lets say 3.2m).
That leaves around 2.85m to sign backup goalie, 2-3 depth forwards and 2 Dmen and cover performance bonuses from Valimaki, Andersson, Kylington and maybe even Dube or Parsons?
Simply not enough even at near league minimums for some of these roster spots.
A 3-5m/yr UFA is possible to fit in.
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02-24-2019, 12:30 PM
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#69
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Scoring Winger
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Maybe it's bad memories of Flames teams past that did nothing with home-ice advantage in the playoffs, or maybe it's the goaltending, or maybe it's the newness of being a top-5 team, but I'm hoping for prudence. Everything the brass has said points toward caution, for whatever their public statements are worth.
I'd like to see some more physicality in the ranks (not a goon), although it's hard to say who a player like that would displace. Adding that may have to wait until the offseason, same as goaltending apparently will.
This team has no D prospects unless you count Valimaki, and that's a major concern. They also have no elite forward draftees. They have no 2nd-rounder this year due to the Hamonic trade.
Mark Stone's probably the only guy available worth moving a first for, and keeping him would have significant cap implications. He's so good, though, that you worry about the cap later and get him now if it doesn't rip apart the rest of the roster. Outside of him, just adding a bit of sandpaper would be fine.
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02-24-2019, 12:34 PM
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#70
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Calgary via Palm Desert
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Ugh I got this advertisement on all my screens on this website. I finally found away to post a reply after a few days.
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02-24-2019, 12:42 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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02-24-2019, 09:40 PM
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#72
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Stampede Grounds
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If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Depth acquisitions only please.
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02-24-2019, 09:49 PM
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#73
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All I can get
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Depth forward for a secondary asset. Hopefully someone who turns it up a notch come playoff time. A little truculence wouldn't hurt.
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02-24-2019, 09:56 PM
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#74
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: BELTLINE
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I'm fine with a depth acquisition where we don't give up significant assets but everything else I'm against.
We're going to need all our young dman throughout the window, and having players like Dube or, fingers crossed, our 2019 first rounder to plug in at an ELC will be CRITICAL to sustained success. We're just seeing the first year of potential here. Nothing's for sure but I really think we need to see what we have, in everyone. That includes how our key guys perform into the playoffs to truly understand and evaluate how the team responds in all situations, and we should have those data points before making any major moves that could shrink the window. Save the all in chip push for three years from now if the team loses in the conference final every year or something like that.
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02-25-2019, 12:01 PM
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#75
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I am on the fence between stand pat and depth forward/minor asset. Voted stand pat. Let prices drop and see what we can get with minor asset(s)
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02-25-2019, 12:02 PM
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#76
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In the Sin Bin
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apparently absolutely nothing
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02-25-2019, 12:04 PM
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#77
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Scoring Winger
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02-25-2019, 01:44 PM
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#78
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I am fine with standing pat. Not sure why Steinberg says fans are unhappy on Social Media. Vocal minority I guess
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02-25-2019, 01:45 PM
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#79
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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I am fine with standing pat. Not sure why Steinberg says fans are unhappy on Social Media. Vocal minority I guess
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Yep, same with CP.
A couple posters losing their minds and saying we failed and Treliving was pathetic, etc.
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02-25-2019, 01:54 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Originally Posted by AC
Yep, same with CP.
A couple posters losing their minds and saying we failed and Treliving was pathetic, etc.
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Its would be interesting to have another poll to see a representation of how fans feel about the result.
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