[News] Flames recall Anthony Peluso from Stockton

[SeanCharles]

We don't need him in the AHL so why not have him sit up here.

No big deal.

Pause the outrage until he actually dresses.

[Vinny01]

Hope he doesn’t dress tonight. Bizarre they sent him down and kept Lazar up for the past few days.

[monkeyman]

Think about how bad your job would be if you went in every day with the prospect of having someone beat the crap out of you.
Now imagine if you had a guy that would protect you.
Under which scenario do you think you'd preform better? Even if Peluso doesn't fight, knowing he's there has to make the team feel better.
One of the biggest knocks on the Flames last year was the lack of toughness, what did they do, get softer. As much as many of you hate this, this team needs someone to fight those tough battles so guys like Hamonic won't have to.

[868904]

So much over reaction from the anti truculent crowd as always.

Prout is probably the only one who plays tonight and it’s all they need. No scores need to be settled. Gudbranson answered the bell and was held accountable, it’s over with.

This call up probably had more to do with the over crowding on Stockton then it does with the Flames. They probably can’t even run an efficient practice with all the players they have and lots of veterans are sitting due to the rules in the AHL. Flames need extra forwards for practice with lazar sent down anyways.

Peluso might play in future games when the Flames want some toughness and dress the two rookie defenceman. I doubt you will see both Peluso and Prout in, it’s just not Peters style.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I do not agree the Flames controlled that game from wire to wire.

Well outside of a few single play and situation breakdowns early in the third, he’s right. Flip the script, and at what points did you ever feel Vancouver had total control over the Flames?

Broadcasts and broadcasters have a subtle effect on the game too. A few situations where there were good chances at both ends between whistles, and each time it was the Canucks replay shown, not the Flames.

And Dave Randorf is from BC and was a radio host for th Canucks 20 years back too, and thst bias has always been there. His fawning over Pettersen, (whose accomplishments include being gifted a 2 on 1 and had a good shot, and having a blocked shot land at his feet to make a 3 ft las to a wide open teammate, was hyperbolized greatly) something which all broadcasts do when they get a story and can milk it and keep coming back to it the entire game, slanted things definitely toward Vancouver in the audio department too, sometimes missing calls on legit Flames chances. And it was in Vancouver, so I expect some bias to play to those fans, there as there may be some with Calgary’s home opener tonight.

But you listen to all these things and see Vancouver only replays on Wed., and you get an idea that they had more run of the play in general then they did, when it was desperation time for 16 minutes in the third, and overall more controlling play by the Flames through the second and half of the first.

[FanIn80]

Are you guys trying to tell me that this lineup we have isn’t good enough to beat Vancouver if we give Peluso 5 whole minutes of ice time?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by browna

Well outside of a few single play and situation breakdowns early in the third, he’s right. Flip the script, and at what points did you ever feel Vancouver had total control over the Flames.

When the flames were down a goal and two players were in the dressing room being attended to by medical staff.

Also when the Canucks had a three goal lead. Or when they scored immediately after the flames to re-establish that 3 goal lead.

[868904]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

This organization's love for goons and staged fights in key divisional games far predates Burke.

And then we're all left wondering why Every. Single. Year. October is a miserable black hole of suck from which the team has to bite and claw back just to maybe make it as a wildcard. They never learn.

You know why that is? Because Calgarians and Flames fans love tough hockey. Everyone gets up when there’s a fight. Some of the most popular players in Flames history are tough guys with no skill (Big Ern, McCarthy, Tim Hunter, Fotiou, Oliwa, Godard, etc).

It would be nice if the very vocal minority can stop assuming that what they like is what the majority of Flames fans like. Calgarians are a tough breed and like their hockey tough, the hockey teams take on the persona of the City they represent. True Albertans like Darryl Sutter understand this and built teams tough and his teams were arguably the most popular in franchise history.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

When the flames we're down a goal and two players were in the dressing room being attended to by medical staff.

Also when the Canucks had a three goal lead. Or when they scored immediately after the flames to re-establish that 3 goal lead.

Control? As mentioned, the Flames had single situational breakdowns in the third, but wasnt stretches of control, and the Flames got their goal soon after the 3rd It long after the 4th, as the Canucks retreated both times.

Yes, when Hamonic was out, there was a few minute stretch of the Flames out of sorts a bit playing with 5 defenseman, though some of it looked bad as the power play was woeful.

As for the Peluso Prout thing, while I expect Gudbranson to potentially now have to fight for the Hamonic fight, I wouldn’t say it’s 100%. I think a Flame such as one of these two gentlemen taking some extra liberties with Petersson or similar is more likely, of which then they will have to answer the bell from Gudbranson.

[sempuki]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Lame

Until they change the rules, and change how the game is refereed, this is how you protect your skilled guys when the other team takes advantage of you.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by browna

Control? As mentioned, the Flames had single situational breakdowns in the third, but wasnt stretches of control, and the Flames got their goal soon after the 3rd It long after the 4th, as the Canucks retreated both times.

Yes, when Hamonic was out, there was a few minute stretch of the Flames out of sorts a bit playing with 5 defenseman, though some of it looked bad as the power play was woeful.

As for the Peluso Prout thing, while I expect Gudbranson to potentially now have to fight for the Hamonic fight, I wouldn’t say it’s 100%. I think a Flame such as one of these two gentlemen taking some extra liberties with Petersson or similar is more likely, of which then they will have to answer the bell from Gudbranson.

I find it difficult to take solace in a game where the flames were beat in the alley and the scoresheet because they had some nice shot differential in large part owing to a 7-1 powerplay advantage.

maybe thats just me.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Are you guys trying to tell me that this lineup we have isn’t good enough to beat Vancouver if we give Peluso 5 whole minutes of ice time?

If Peluso or Prout act out and set the refs on red alert the Flames could be looking at killing off 5-7 minor stick infractions.


The Canucks were not 5-1 dirtier or a step behind in the play than the Flames last game. The refs were punishing the Canucks for Gunbrandson hitting Dube. The interference and over the glass were the only non-judgement penalties

Then when Hamonic stepped up and took a beating they didn't even bother to give Hamonic an instigator. It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure out that Hamonic went out after Gundrandson.

If the refs are not prepared that Prout is supposed to be looking for trouble, I would be shocked.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I find it difficult to take solace in a game where the flames were beat in the alley and the scoresheet because they had some nice shot differential in large part owing to a 7-1 powerplay advantage.

maybe thats just me.

Those power plays were earned by having the puck the entire time and forcing the Canucks to chase them all over the ice.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

The Flames did not get "pushed around" on Wednesday. They were in control of that game pretty much from wire-to-wire. They sucked on the powerplay, and that is the reason they lost.

If the wire started mid 2nd period, I guess. The first 30 minutes was at best even, the team was flat, and Vancouver capitalized while the Flames did not.

Sure the power play sucked. But it’s not the only reason they lost. They were outscored. They didn’t let in 5 goals because of the power play.

[kman35ca]

Ya some teams are fine without a fighter. But the majority of teams have at least one guy who can really throw down. Ideally it would be someone that can play hockey too.
I think Calgary's a unique situation. With all the talk about them seeming mentally weak. Would have loved to see someone like Simmonds on this team. Or If we were able to keep Engelland instead of Stone would have been ideal.
I know everyone wishes the goons of old were gone. But obviously they aren't. And until they are gone, we need to have guys that can answer the call. The league isn't going to protect them. You can't let a rookie take a dirty hit, and just ignore it. And say well we will score more goals. I still believe 100% you need to show your young players that they will have guys ready to answer the call if they face dirty hit's.
You don't want these young guys intimidated out there. And a good fight, especially if your guy wins, can swing the momentum your teams way...

[Split98]

Pretty sure that's the 2nd goal I've seen where the team is rushing up the ice without possession.

Pretty entertaining to watch

[Flames1848]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Hope he doesn’t dress tonight. Bizarre they sent him down and kept Lazar up for the past few days.

Cap Reason

[Strange Brew]

The Flames did not “control” the first period of that game IMO. Play was relatively even except for a major breakdown which led to the Canucks goal. That is not controlling the game.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by 868904

You know why that is? Because Calgarians and Flames fans love tough hockey. Everyone gets up when there’s a fight. Some of the most popular players in Flames history are tough guys with no skill (Big Ern, McCarthy, Tim Hunter, Fotiou, Oliwa, Godard, etc).

It would be nice if the very vocal minority can stop assuming that what they like is what the majority of Flames fans like. Calgarians are a tough breed and like their hockey tough, the hockey teams take on the persona of the City they represent. True Albertans like Darryl Sutter understand this and built teams tough and his teams were arguably the most popular in franchise history.

Where has the vocal minority assumed that what we like is what the majority of Flames fans like? That has never been the position or the argument.

My position against fighting has been that it is silly, unnecessary and doesn't add anything to the game. NOWHERE have I ever said that I assume that's how other people feel. Nowhere. I am WELL aware that a lot of fans like fighting. And they have the right to feel that way. I have never suggested otherwise.

Can you point to any posts where people have done that? If not you are basically making stuff up, which is a very weak way to counter someone who happens to have a different view than you.

And cut the True Albertan BS.
Whether or not you like fighting doesn't make you a True Albertan.
What an absolute load of malarkey.

Just an awful take. Cliche silly machismo bunk.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by sempuki

Until they change the rules, and change how the game is refereed, this is how you protect your skilled guys when the other team takes advantage of you.

Provide evidence it works. You know what works? Pumping in PP goals.