[Signing] Flames re-sign Rittich avoiding arbitration (1 yr, $800k, one way)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

6 goals 16 assists and -7.

Had Mangiapane seen the amount of power play time and the 10+ games with Backlund and Tkachuk that Brouwer was gifted, he would've been at least that productive.

I doubt it. Brouwer actually didn't have as much PP time as people think - he was completely off of it for much of the season, and on the second unit for the vast majority of the other time. But more than that, nothing in Mangiapane's game showed me that he had much going on. He played a fairly timid and uncreative game.

Now - will Mangiapane be better going forward? Quite possibly. If he shows at all well in camp, I'm happy for him to take Brouwer's spot. Or even if there's not much of a difference and Treliving can use the cap room.

That said, I expect there to be only fourth line spots available (I can't see Frolik dropping to the fourth line), and so the question is who is better at that role? Is Mangiapane better off there or in Stockton?

[tvp2003]

Rittich seems like he has a great temperament off the ice, with the kind of attitude that makes guys want to play better in front of him. Hope Peters trusts him to play a little more often and that he can put up the same kinds of numbers he did last year before Smith got hurt.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

I'm like 90% certain Rittich would clear waivers. Rittich and Brossoit have a lot of the same question marks...

I am not sure if Rittich would clear waivers, but I am convinced that he is a hell of a lot better than Broissoit, who outside of one god-like performance against the Flames two years ago has been pretty consistently awful.

[Madrox]

I would be surprised if Rittich cleared. He’s a guy that’s still young, who during a transitional year in the AHL performed remarkably well, and while he had some spotty times splitting between the ahl and nhl in his second year, had some great performances, and on balance was at least a decent goalie. He’s shown he can at least play in this league, and if he can find some consistency, can be a pretty good option for at least a backup, and maybe more. If our backup for the last 15 years performed as well as Rittich did last year, I think there are only about two years where we would have been worse off.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Madrox

I would be surprised if Rittich cleared. He’s a guy that’s still young, who during a transitional year in the AHL performed remarkably well, and while he had some spotty times splitting between the ahl and nhl in his second year, had some great performances, and on balance was at least a decent goalie. He’s shown he can at least play in this league, and if he can find some consistency, can be a pretty good option for at least a backup, and maybe more. If our backup for the last 15 years performed as well as Rittich did last year, I think there are only about two years where we would have been worse off.

Ya but a team has to claim him and keep him on the roster. How many other backups does he DEFINITIVELY beat out? Calvin Pickard cleared last year because teams didn’t want a third goaltender and he had proven much more at the NHL level than Rittich.

I agree that he would clear waivers and I think that’s probably what happens if he doesn’t show improvements during camp. They were already shopping for upgrades on that position last year. They probably have some things in the works for a backup upgrade and are just waiting for arbitration/rfa contracts to be resolved

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Rittich seems like he has a great temperament off the ice, with the kind of attitude that makes guys want to play better in front of him. Hope Peters trusts him to play a little more often and that he can put up the same kinds of numbers he did last year before Smith got hurt.

I remember a clip from the skills comp where Versteeg was interviewing guys and when he was talking to Rittich he said: “I was just telling these guys how nobody likes you”, and Rittich laughed.

I think that clip alone solidifies he’s a dressing room favourite. That can translate well on the ice for both the goalie and the team in front of him.

[Diemenz]

This isn’t thread related but I think there should be an algorithm written into the forum that allows us to block all posts that complain about Brouwer unless it’s in a Brouwer thread. Kind of like the block list but for Brouwer posts.

Carry on.

[Poe969]

That's a Brouwerful idea.

[gamesaver]

Originally Posted by neo45

Ya but a team has to claim him and keep him on the roster. How many other backups does he DEFINITIVELY beat out? Calvin Pickard cleared last year because teams didn’t want a third goaltender and he had proven much more at the NHL level than Rittich.

I agree that he would clear waivers and I think that’s probably what happens if he doesn’t show improvements during camp. They were already shopping for upgrades on that position last year. They probably have some things in the works for a backup upgrade and are just waiting for arbitration/rfa contracts to be resolved

Rangers could claim him for example. Young, cheap goalie with potential upside and RFA next year, or UFA if they do not start him enough. Nothing to loose even if he was sitting in pressbox.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by gamesaver

Rangers could claim him for example. Young, cheap goalie with potential upside and RFA next year, or UFA if they do not start him enough. Nothing to loose even if he was sitting in pressbox.

First the Rangers have to fail to find any other acceptable backup all through training camp. I doubt they are going to just roll with one goalie right until the end of camp in the hopes that someone decent gets put on waivers.

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Frankly I thought Rittich as a rookie performed as well or better than most of the Flames backups of the past 5 years. He should be able to handle more starts in his second season. He looks like a capable NHL goalie so far despite the expected rookie inconsistencies.

Try 14 years. He's the best backup we've had since Roman Turek in 2004, unless you count the Hiller/Ramo duo when they both had good season (but that was known as a tandem since the start).

In terms of having a clear #1 G who plays the bulk of the games and having a reliable backup, IMO Rittch been the best we've had since Kipper's 1st season. As sad as it is, Roman Turek was the last truly good backup we had.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by gamesaver

Rangers could claim him for example. Young, cheap goalie with potential upside and RFA next year, or UFA if they do not start him enough. Nothing to loose even if he was sitting in pressbox.

Hate to be that guy but it's lose.
The screw is loose, that animal is on the loose.
He has nothing to lose, the oilers lose the game.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Hate to be that guy but it's lose.
The screw is loose, that animal is on the loose.
He has nothing to lose, the oilers lose the game.

You English speakers should really just stop making your writing so needlessly complicated.

[PsYcNeT]

EDIT: Wrong thread.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Taken from another thread on subject:

Quote:
"Originally Posted by Nelson View Post
I think there were some great games in there and some not so great games. However, I can't remember the games well enough to comment on the circumstances that produced Rittich's inconsistency.

I'll disregard the games where Rittich didn't face a significant amount of shots.

> or = to .915 => 10 starts
> or = to .900 => 11 starts
< or = to .900 => 5 starts
< or = to .800 => 2 starts

Mar 24, SJS -> .838
Mar 9, Ott -> .967
Mar 7, Buff -> .962
Feb 28, Colo -> .879
Feb 21, Vgk -> .731
Feb 19, Bos -> .938
Feb 17, Fla -> .733
Feb 15, Nsh - > .906
Feb 13, Bos -> .897
Feb 8, Njd -> .938
Jan 25, Edm -> .919
Jan 12, Fla -> .953
Dec 28, Sjs -> .938
Dec 17, Van -> .941
Dec 7, Mtl -> .946
Nov 25, Col -> .923

So I guess in 16 games in which he faced a decent number of shots, Rittich gave the team pretty decent numbers. 10/16 times he was over .915. He did have 2 disastrous games but in general was much more likely to be good.

Perhaps I'm wrong about not trusting Rittich. Thanks for the post."


Seeing the SV% per game puts things in perspective. The 2 really bad games (<0.800), and 3 subpar games (<0.900) really took a toll on Rittich's SV% and GAA.

In terms of quality starts (QS) Rittich was 18th in the entire league (62.5% of his starts being quality starts). Smith was 30th in quality starts (58.2%) for comparison albeit playing tougher teams.

A good goalie in the NHL has a QS over 60%.

Rittich did fine in his first year with Flames. His "trial by fire" stint as a starter when Smith went down was a terrific learning experience for him.

Expect further growth in his game this year.

If you remove Feb 11-March 11 period when Smith injured. As a backup during season Rittich only had one subpar start right at end of season when things were falling apart for the entire team.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Itse

You English speakers should really just stop making your writing so needlessly complicated.

Tell you what. Make the Finnish language possible for a foreigner to learn, and we might listen to you on the subject of languages generally.

Your move.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Itse

You English speakers should really just stop making your writing so needlessly complicated.

Are you implying adding 1 pair of double letters to a word makes it complicated??..... should we triple the amount of pairs?

[Locke]

At least English has dealt away with crazy accents and umlauts and the like.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by Locke

At least English has dealt away with crazy accents and umlauts and the like.

Have you ever watched a hockey interview? Lots of players say "um" lots.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Have you ever watched a hockey interview? Lots of players say "um" lots.

Yeah, but I've always maintained that its kind of stupid interviewing players between periods because they're so focused on something else and the questions are always stupid and the same.

Like nobody realizes that these guys are trying to prepare and focus on the next shift or period or even the next game that answering inane questions is just going to result in inane answers.