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Old 06-30-2018, 01:55 PM   #61
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Shea weber dropped off noticeably at thirty or so.
Weber's really only had one bad year, the last one. Which was super injury plagued. Before that he was a 40+ point guy who was +20. Maybe he's not the best in the world anymore, but he's still better than most, most of the time.

And Weber's real downfall is the length of that deal. 13 years, taking him to 40+ was always too much, and that's why Nashville is going to get savaged when Weber retires well before 40.

Doughty's deal is eight years and takes him to an age where, historically, the best defensemen in the game are still productive players.

Gio is in the same boat. Barring major leg injuries, neither player should be suffer a sharp decline - they're not going to get dumber.
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Old 06-30-2018, 05:20 PM   #62
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Weber's really only had one bad year, the last one. Which was super injury plagued. Before that he was a 40+ point guy who was +20. Maybe he's not the best in the world anymore, but he's still better than most, most of the time.

And Weber's real downfall is the length of that deal. 13 years, taking him to 40+ was always too much, and that's why Nashville is going to get savaged when Weber retires well before 40.

Doughty's deal is eight years and takes him to an age where, historically, the best defensemen in the game are still productive players.

Gio is in the same boat. Barring major leg injuries, neither player should be suffer a sharp decline - they're not going to get dumber.
I imagine DD will be good past thirty-two or so. But it’s still a risk, especially for guys that get hit like he does.

Frankly, I think Weber is done, and the year before he was only a good defence man, not an elite one.
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:27 PM   #63
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Doughty is a great skater. He's going to continue to be an elite player well into his 30s.
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:42 PM   #64
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Doughty is a great skater. He's going to continue to be an elite player well into his 30s.
We will see for another 8 years. That’s a long time.No doubt the ability is there and has been there, but is the give a crap level going to stay high? He’s become noticibly more whiny the last few seasons, from the Tkachuk thing to the Vegas playoffs and others. He’s won his Cups. He’s since complained about the coach that pushed the necessary buttons him and his teammates to get those Cups, too.

8 years ago the Flames on July 1 got Tanguay and Jokinen part 2, and later in the summer, Jackman, Ivananas and Morrison. Iginla was a few months removed for the assist on the gold medal goal.
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:44 PM   #65
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I still think he's got more miles on him than most players because of the minutes he plays and I'm not as convinced he's going to be a great player in his mid-30's. At 28 years old he's already played more games (a lot more when you count playoffs) than 34 year old Giordano.

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