[GDT] Flames @ Penguins, 5:00 PM MST. Sportsnet One, Fan 960

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well it's hard to say but I imagine the Flames put Hamonic on the block at the draft they may get a 1st round pick but not likely the 2nd round picks back. The reason the guy was available for trade for so long was because the asking price was high and teams didn't want to pay up until the Flames moved in. I don't think Hamonic has been bad but I also think there are few teams that are going to look at his season with the Flames and feel he's worth close to that price. The Islanders didn't really miss him that much and the Flames didn't get better and when you trade a 1st round pick and two 2nd round picks I would think you are looking to get a difference maker in return.

That I disagree with...they improved their forward depth big time yet still suck balls

Major issues with goal tending and D

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Kovaz

Hopefully Ferland's back to how he was playing before that line got cold. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he was playing hurt for a bit before he ended up sitting out a few games.

I'd like to see Lazar get back in, IMO he's been better than Hathaway for the last month or so.

He was playing hurt for the last couple games before sitting, allegedly. So it may mean a little boost for the top line.

I agree about Lazar. Hathaway has played his way out IMO.

I also see they're still shoehorning Stajan in pushing Shore out of his natural position to get him 1000 games.

I have no expectations for this one. Just gonna put er on in the background and maybe they'll surprise us and show up.

[Flacker]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Chop up another loss

Mind Bottling!

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/chalk+up

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well it's hard to say but I imagine the Flames put Hamonic on the block at the draft they may get a 1st round pick but not likely the 2nd round picks back. The reason the guy was available for trade for so long was because the asking price was high and teams didn't want to pay up until the Flames moved in. I don't think Hamonic has been bad but I also think there are few teams that are going to look at his season with the Flames and feel he's worth close to that price. The Islanders didn't really miss him that much and the Flames didn't get better and when you trade a 1st round pick and two 2nd round picks I would think you are looking to get a difference maker in return.

IMO Hamonic has played pretty much lights out for well over half of the season. Frankly, absent Brody's subpar season, he is a difference maker. I suppose the Isles didn't miss him in the sense they weren't going to be in the POs no matter what. But on a plain old roster basis, they could sure use him.

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well it's hard to say but I imagine the Flames put Hamonic on the block at the draft they may get a 1st round pick but not likely the 2nd round picks back. The reason the guy was available for trade for so long was because the asking price was high and teams didn't want to pay up until the Flames moved in. I don't think Hamonic has been bad but I also think there are few teams that are going to look at his season with the Flames and feel he's worth close to that price. The Islanders didn't really miss him that much and the Flames didn't get better and when you trade a 1st round pick and two 2nd round picks I would think you are looking to get a difference maker in return.

I don’t think we can worry about that pick now, it’s a sunk cost, and there’s no use crying over spilt milk.

I see hamonic with this team long term, he has a great contract and is actually starting to round into form.

Still think the problem is going to be that of our top 5 d men four of them prefer to play the right side. And our most nhl ready prospect plays the right side too so that’s five guys for three spots.


Leads me to think that stone and Brodie are both gone this offseason. Will be super annoyed if andersson isn’t in top 6 to start next season

[browna]

The stability in all 3 defense pairs, thanks to Hamonic and Stone, while not as flashy or dynamic as some who are going to try and complain about something anyways, may like, cannot be understated.

Sure, Brodie may not look great offensively as hoped. Hamilton seems to have his heads in the clouds for extended period of times making dumb plays, but the stability of the pairings, which hasn’t been the case here for many years, is a big part as to why the Flames didn’t give up more then 3 goals in a game for almost two months.

Smith is a big part of that too without question, but Hamonic coming in and nailing down the 3 4 spot is a huge part of that, and not something someone in the system or drafted with that extra pick people complain about as overpayment, could do in the next 2 to 3 years to provide thet needed stability.

Issues are up front, as well documented. Maybe the coaching too...there really needs to be a thread on coaching.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

I don’t think we can worry about that pick now, it’s a sunk cost, and there’s no use crying over spilt milk.

True but the grass is always greener...

[Jiri Hrdina]

If you trade any dman for a pick it will make it that much tougher to trade a dman to address the glaring need on forward.
I think Andersson will be on the team next year but do you want a bottom 3 of Andersson-Kulak and another rookie dman/veteran plug?

You need to leverage the blueline depth to get the forward you need.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dino7c

That I disagree with...they improved their forward depth big time yet still suck balls

Major issues with goal tending and D

They have received pretty poor goaltending and we have seen here first hand that bad goaltending makes everything look worst than it is defensively. I don't think defensively they were that good last season with Hamonic so if it's got worse it's negligible as their team SV% went from average last season to bottom of the league this season.

[Sylvanfan]

This is the type of game the Flames might figure out how to win. Ultimately infuriorating the fan base that they can play reasonably well against top level teams....yet struggle with the 9-30th ranked other teams in the league enough to miss the playoffs.

[CSharp]

If the Flames tank for the rest of the season, I'm fine with that if they can be within the protected draft and the talent is deep this year in the first round. I think Tre is all in to make the playoffs though.

[Badgers Nose]

They will win because they are on the road, away from whatever bugaboo lives in the dome this year.

They are headcases this year, as in many year's past. Flames seem to defeat themselves as much as the opposition does. I chalk this up to almost always having bargain bin coaches with only about 3-4 exceptions in the entirety of our NHL history.

Some tips.

Don't melt down late in the game. Draw more penalties than you take.

Take a breath when a couple of bad things happen, and remember you've come back and won plenty of times and have even won seven/ten games in a row (same team, dude).

It would help if GG would actually do something once in a while, like if the the officials opt to decide the game with bad calls or a goalie takes 5 minutes off. GG, find creative ways to slow the game down even if you must keep that vital TO for your Perry Mason act.

[Kickazzflames]

Yikes, they need a 4 game winning streak just to get back into the playoff picture. That's just to have a chance to sniff the playoffs.

Since the break that messed up the 7 game winning streak and mojo.. Flames have gone 7-9-5.

[Simon96Taco]

A glimmer of hope or a nail in the coffin - what's it gonna be?

[Toonage]

This team is due for a winning streak.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Simon96Taco

A glimmer of hope or a nail in the coffin - what's it gonna be?

Nail in the coffin. Or at least that's how we should prepare. I think we should panic now so that the inevitable loss stings less. And then if we win it's just a bonus.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

I don’t think we can worry about that pick now, it’s a sunk cost, and there’s no use crying over spilt milk.

I see hamonic with this team long term, he has a great contract and is actually starting to round into form.

Still think the problem is going to be that of our top 5 d men four of them prefer to play the right side. And our most nhl ready prospect plays the right side too so that’s five guys for three spots.


Leads me to think that stone and Brodie are both gone this offseason. Will be super annoyed if andersson isn’t in top 6 to start next season

You know what is crazy...It would actually be better for the Flames to win the lottery than a divisional rival. (from a strictly hockey standpoint)

Send the player to a team you see twice a year and don't compete with for playoffs.

Islanders first pick or Oilers?

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by CSharp

If the Flames tank for the rest of the season, I'm fine with that if they can be within the protected draft and the talent is deep this year in the first round. I think Tre is all in to make the playoffs though.

The pick isn't protected

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by CSharp

If the Flames tank for the rest of the season, I'm fine with that if they can be within the protected draft and the talent is deep this year in the first round. I think Tre is all in to make the playoffs though.

I have some bad news...

[Kickazzflames]

Originally Posted by mdubz

The pick isn't protected