Your 2018-19 Calgary Flames?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Corral

Tavares isn't going to leave the mediocrity of the NYI in the Big Apple for more of the same in the bustling metropolis of Calgary.

No - if he leaves NYI he will sign McDavid like money in Toronto.

Not saying he would come here but the Leafs can't make that kinda offer IMO. They have players about to be paid. Calgary has their top players on really good contracts.

Its not an advantage though when you are giving the extra money to the likes of Brouwer/Stajan

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by Corral

Tavares isn't going to leave the mediocrity of the NYI in the Big Apple for more of the same in the bustling metropolis of Calgary.

No - if he leaves NYI he will sign McDavid like money in Toronto.

Not gonna happen because Matthews will be making McDavid money. They also have to pay Nylander and Marner soon too.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by blender

Next year this organization should see itself as trying to win the cup, as they should every year. Hence, they should be actively trying to sign Tavares. Seriously. Bring in a coach that has a better pedigree, sign Tavares for Mcdavid money, upgrade the bottom six by robbing from the D.
Win now.
Would address the alleged culture of mediocrity as well.

Calgary actively trying to sign Tavares will be about the same as Calgary actively trying to win the Amazon bid.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Yeah I agree the off-season plan can hinge on JT because it is a long shot at best. Sure take a swing but that better not be the only plan.

[blender]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Calgary actively trying to sign Tavares will be about the same as Calgary actively trying to win the Amazon bid.

We'll you can't predict the future, so why try? The question was what should Calgary do, and I think if they don't make a pitch for the top FA they are being negligent.

Every time Tavares is brought up here there is a chorus of posts about how it wont happen. Well it won't if BT doesn't make a pitch.

[blender]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Yeah I agree the off-season plan can hinge on JT because it is a long shot at best. Sure take a swing but that better not be the only plan.

Obviously.
There are fair questions being asked about Flames management but they are not incompetent idiots.

[Bunk]

They gotta trade for or sign a high end forward player - either center or winger. Whether Tavares or someone else.

[Freeway]

Conditions on Smith pick, via Flames:
-If they make 2018 playoffs, 2019 second to Arizona (and their 2020 second goes to Islanders)
-If they miss 2018 playoffs, 2018 third to Arizona (and their 2019 second goes to Islanders)

[Poe969]

They should be telling Hamonic to start whispering to Tavares about how great Calgary could be if he went there. I thought I read somewhere that they were close friends. Do everything you can to get his attention and then trade for his rights at the draft to show him how serious they are about him.

Plan 2 should be targeting some other elite player. Look at Tampa, they have a lot of awesome players, not 2 way players, not grinders or truculent guys. Skill wins in today's NHL. There is the rare exception to the rule, Ferland might be one but there really should only be 2 or maybe 3 guys like that on a team (forwards) the back end should be tough but still mobile with 1 or 2 more tough less mobile guys. And as great as it is to have really nice people on the team with great character, it doesn't win games. I'd rather have a team full of Aholes who win than a nice team that's constantly mediocre.

Just fix things.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Yeah I agree the off-season plan can hinge on JT because it is a long shot at best. Sure take a swing but that better not be the only plan.

agreed, all I am saying is make the pitch and offer a ridiculous amount...drive the price up if nothing else

[blender]

Originally Posted by Bunk

They gotta trade for or sign a high end forward player - either center or winger. Whether Tavares or someone else.

James Neal?

[wired]

2019/2020 Flames will not be in Calgary IMO

[Bunk]

They are stuck in the netherworld of middle of the pack - especially without any possibility of a high pick this year. I’m for a huge, swing for the fences signing and/or blockbuster trade.

Something like:

Karlsson, Hoffman (or Stone)

for

Hamilton, Hamonic, Fox, Bennett (or Frolik), +?

Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
Hoffman-Jankowski-Ferland
Dube-Backlund-Frolik (Bennett)
Who cares

Gio-Brodie
Valimaki-Karlsson
Kulak-Andersson

Or

Try to sign Tavares for huge money. And flip Jankowski, Brodie, Stone for picks to drop salary.

Tkachuk-Tavares-Ferland
Gaudreau-Monahan-Bennett
Dube-Backlund-Frolik
Who cares

Gio-Hamilton
Valimaki-Hamonic
Kulak-Andersson

[Otto-matic]

I don't see the team making any big deals or trades to be quite honest.

They may go out and find a new backup goalie and a couple 3rd/4th liners but I don't see any homeruns.

The only big change will be the release of the coaching staff.

[Toonage]

A veteran backup is a must having watched the current situation unfold this past month. Can you imagine if this happened at the start of the season? They'd be done by the end of October. I see a bright future for both Gillies & Rittich, but they aren't ready yet and if the Flames are going to ride a 35 year old starter who does have a history of injuries then they need a better backup if that person has to shoulder the load. And an Eddie Lack caliber backup won't do.

Flames also need a legit RHS to play in the top 6. A star LW could play that role, but ideally they find that exact fit.

To achieve all of this they'll have to give to get. Be prepared to see roster player(s) and prospects go.

I hated the idea of the Flames going out and getting Kane & Lehner from Buffalo at the deadline, but looking over the list of potential goalies available for next season Lehner may fit the bill after all. Won't be expensive to obtain or extend for a year or two. Do the Flames give up more to Buffalo and try to pry Reinhart out of there? As for wingers, do they turn their attention to Montreal or Ottawa? Do they throw money at Kane after all?

I say they make moves regardless of whether the coaching staff is fired or not.

This summer is going to be fascinating.

[JBR]

What would it take to get a first round pick in the lottery?

Does Bennett + Brodie get it done?

[Toonage]

1) They'd have to make a deal prior to the draft lottery selection, which is near the end of April. That's a tough ask.
2) Would you trade the 1st overall for Brodie & Bennett? Probably not and thats the risk any of those teams would be taking.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by JBR

What would it take to get a first round pick in the lottery?

Does Bennett + Brodie get it done?

Originally Posted by Toonage

1) They'd have to make a deal prior to the draft lottery selection, which is near the end of April. That's a tough ask.
2) Would you trade the 1st overall for Brodie & Bennett? Probably not and thats the risk any of those teams would be taking.

And is this really the year to be trading into a high lottery pick? I honestly don't know the strength of the top 5 in this years draft, compared to the hype around McDavid/Eichel or Matthews/Laine/PullRV, or even Tyler v. Taylor. It doesn't seem like the really deep 2014 or 2013 drafts (but maybe that's just my ignorance). It's more like last year's draft, where only two of the first round are playing significant NHL minutes and, while having decent rookie seasons, aren't household names.

[JBR]

I would to Bennett and Brodie for an opportunity to draft Brady Tkachuk.. if there were a willing trade partner.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by JBR

I would to Bennett and Brodie for an opportunity to draft Brady Tkachuk.. if there were a willing trade partner.

I'm not sure Brady will live up to his draft position.