Playoff Push - Strength of Schedule

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

I’m not sure the % of odds is truly reflective. If the Kings lose just 2 games in a row, we’re legitimately right back in it. Dallas has a ridiculously difficult schedule and there’s potential for us to catch them. St Louis has fallen apart and Colorado is very young. If we take care of business and get just a little bit of help, we can take a spot back.

% of odds does not take opponent playing levels into effect, do they?

Our next two games are Ottawa and NYI. Taking a look at the other teams upcoming games, it looks pretty favorable for us. Outside of Minnesota(VAN, EDM) and Colorado(CLB, AZ), everyone has two very tough teams next.

LA: Nashville, St. Louis
ANA: Dallas, St. Louis
SJ: Washington, St. Louis
STL: San Jose, LA
DAL: Anaheim, Pittsburgh

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

% of odds does not take opponent playing levels into effect, do they?

The weighted method takes strength of schedule into account.
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/W...c/Calgary.html
The 50/50 method does not.
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/W.../Calgary2.html

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If the Kings lose 2 in a row the Flames will be close to them (assuming the Flames win), but there are other teams that also need to lose. That's why it's so tough. Flames need to catch 3 teams, not one.

The Flames need to simply keep winning and hope at least one of the other teams doesn't do the same. As you say, they need to take care of their own business.

Dallas is already close to the magic playoff number if they simply play .500 the rest of the way. I wouldn't bet on any team completely collapsing from here on out.

You're right, we do need to leap over a couple other teams. St Louis did lose Bouwemeester and Statsny, so they're not as deep as they were. The Avalanche do scare me a bit. The Stars have a murderers row of opponents and a they play a lot on the road where they play significantly worse.

No room for error at this point. We do need some help, but if Mike Smith is back this week, then there's a clear path to a playoff spot. Those California games will be paramount as well. If we win out, as unlikely as it is, we deserve to be in a playoff position.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

% of odds does not take opponent playing levels into effect, do they?

Our next two games are Ottawa and NYI. Taking a look at the other teams upcoming games, it looks pretty favorable for us. Outside of Minnesota(VAN, EDM) and Colorado(CLB, AZ), everyone has two very tough teams next.

LA: Nashville, St. Louis
ANA: Dallas, St. Louis
SJ: Washington, St. Louis
STL: San Jose, LA
DAL: Anaheim, Pittsburgh

I'll be paying close attention to these games, no question. Hopefully no 3 point games and some luck for us. After our rough stretch, we're due.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

% of odds does not take opponent playing levels into effect, do they?

Our next two games are Ottawa and NYI. Taking a look at the other teams upcoming games, it looks pretty favorable for us. Outside of Minnesota(VAN, EDM) and Colorado(CLB, AZ), everyone has two very tough teams next.

LA: Nashville, St. Louis
ANA: Dallas, St. Louis
SJ: Washington, St. Louis
STL: San Jose, LA
DAL: Anaheim, Pittsburgh

I see St. Louis is described as a tough team in your post, others describe them as falling apart and playing with a depleted lineup.

[Tsawwassen]

After Thursday's games

Sharks, Kings, and Jets won in regulation
Avalanche lost in overtime
Blues and Ducks lost in regulation


3. Winnipeg (41-17-9) 39 ROW, 91 pts--second in the Central Division
4. Minnesota (38-22-7) 35 ROW, 83 pts--third in the Central Division
5. San Jose (36-22-9) 32 ROW, 81 pts--second in the Pacific Division
6. Dallas (37-24-6) 33 ROW, 80 pts--fourth in the Central Division
7. Anaheim (34-22-12) 30 ROW, 80 pts--third in the Pacific Division
8. Los Angeles (37-25-5) 35 ROW, 79 pts--fourth in the Pacific Division
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Colorado (35-24-8) 34 ROW, 78 pts--fifth in the Central Division
Calgary (33-25-10) 31 ROW, 76 pts--fifth in the Pacific Division
St. Louis (35-27-5) 32 ROW, 75 pts--sixth in the Central Division

[Tsawwassen]

After Friday's games

Stars, Flames, and Wild won in regulation
Ducks lost in regulation


3. Winnipeg (41-17-9) 39 ROW, 91 pts--second in the Central Division
4. Minnesota (39-22-7) 36 ROW, 85 pts--third in the Central Division
5. Dallas (38-24-6) 34 ROW, 82 pts--fourth in the Central Division
6. San Jose (36-22-9) 32 ROW, 81 pts--second in the Pacific Division
7. Anaheim (34-23-12) 30 ROW, 80 pts--third in the Pacific Division
8. Los Angeles (37-25-5) 35 ROW, 79 pts--fourth in the Pacific Division
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Colorado (35-24-8) 34 ROW, 78 pts--fifth in the Central Division
Calgary (34-25-10) 32 ROW, 78 pts--fifth in the Pacific Division
St. Louis (35-27-5) 32 ROW, 75 pts--sixth in the Central Division

[Tsawwassen]

After Saturday's games

Blues and Avalanche won in regulation
Kings, Sharks, Wild, and Jets lost in regulation


3. Winnipeg (41-18-9) 39 ROW, 91 pts--second in the Central Division
4. Minnesota (39-23-7) 36 ROW, 85 pts--third in the Central Division
5. Dallas (38-24-6) 34 ROW, 82 pts--fourth in the Central Division
6. San Jose (36-23-9) 32 ROW, 81 pts--second in the Pacific Division
7. Colorado (36-24-8) 35 ROW, 80 pts--fifth in the Central Division
8. Anaheim (34-23-12) 30 ROW, 80 pts--third in the Pacific Division
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Los Angeles (37-26-5) 35 ROW, 79 pts--fourth in the Pacific Division
Calgary (34-25-10) 32 ROW, 78 pts--fifth in the Pacific Division
St. Louis (36-27-5) 33 ROW, 77 pts--sixth in the Central Division

[Greybeard]

Tsa >>> Would you mind changing the format to (69-34-25-10) so that at a glance a guy knows how many games in hand each team has over the other. Thanks.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I see St. Louis is described as a tough team in your post, others describe them as falling apart and playing with a depleted lineup.

The reverse jinx! Well played.

Do it again, since they play Anaheim tomorrow and boy we could sure use that one too.

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by Greybeard

Tsa >>> Would you mind changing the format to (69-34-25-10) so that at a glance a guy knows how many games in hand each team has over the other. Thanks.

You got it, that will be done.





After Sunday's games

Flames and Stars lost in regulation


3. Winnipeg (68--41-18-9) 39 ROW, 91 pts--second in the Central Division
4. Minnesota (69--39-23-7) 36 ROW, 85 pts--third in the Central Division
5. Dallas (69--38-25-6) 34 ROW, 82 pts--fourth in the Central Division
6. San Jose (68--36-23-9) 32 ROW, 81 pts--second in the Pacific Division
7. Colorado (68--36-24-8) 35 ROW, 80 pts--fifth in the Central Division
8. Anaheim (69--34-23-12) 30 ROW, 80 pts--third in the Pacific Division
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Los Angeles (68--37-26-5) 35 ROW, 79 pts--fourth in the Pacific Division
Calgary (70--34-26-10) 32 ROW, 78 pts--fifth in the Pacific Division
St. Louis (68--36-27-5) 33 ROW, 77 pts--sixth in the Central Division


The number of games played are first and in bold.

[hwy19man]

After Monday's games

Blues, Kings, Sharks and won in regulation
Jets lost in overtime
Ducks lost in regulation


3. Winnipeg (69--41-18-10) 39 ROW, 92 pts--second in the Central Division
4. Minnesota (69--39-23-7) 36 ROW, 85 pts--third in the Central Division
5. San Jose (69--37-23-9) 33 ROW, 83 pts--second in the Pacific Division
6. Dallas (69--38-25-6) 34 ROW, 82 pts--fourth in the Central Division
7. Los Angeles (69--38-26-5) 36 ROW, 81 pts--third in the Pacific Division
8. Colorado (68--36-24-8) 35 ROW, 80 pts--fifth in the Central Division
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Anaheim (70--34-24-12) 30 ROW, 80 pts--fourth in the Pacific Division
St. Louis (69--37-27-5) 34 ROW, 79 pts--sixth in the Central Division
Calgary (70--34-26-10) 32 ROW, 78 pts--fifth in the Pacific Division


The number of games played are first and in bold.

[Gaskal]

Still barely hanging on, but depending hugely on good OOT nights for the next week.

Green = Good for Flames
Blue = Meh, a point
Red = Bad for Flames

[Tsawwassen]

After Tuesday's games

Flames and Avalanche won in regulation
Kings lost in the shootout
Wild, Stars, and Jets lost in regulation


3. Winnipeg (70--41-19-10) 39 ROW, 92 pts--second in the Central Division
4. Minnesota (70--39-24-7) 36 ROW, 85 pts--third in the Central Division
5. San Jose (69--37-23-9) 33 ROW, 83 pts--second in the Pacific Division
6. Colorado (69--37-24-8) 36 ROW, 82 pts--fourth in the Central Division
7. Los Angeles (70--38-26-6) 36 ROW, 82 pts--third in the Pacific Division
8. Dallas (70--38-26-6) 34 ROW, 82 pts--fifth in the Central Division
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Anaheim (70--34-24-12) 30 ROW, 80 pts--fourth in the Pacific Division
Calgary (71--35-26-10) 33 ROW, 80 pts--fifth in the Pacific Division
St. Louis (69--37-27-5) 34 ROW, 79 pts--sixth in the Central Division


The number of games played are first and in bold.

[Tsawwassen]

After Wednesday's games

Ducks won in regulation
Sharks won in overtime
Stars lost in the shootout


3. Winnipeg (70--41-19-10) 39 ROW, 92 pts--second in the Central Division
4. Minnesota (70--39-24-7) 36 ROW, 85 pts--third in the Central Division
5. San Jose (70--38-23-9) 34 ROW, 85 pts--second in the Pacific Division
6. Dallas (71--38-26-7) 34 ROW, 83 pts--fourth in the Central Division
7. Colorado (69--37-24-8) 36 ROW, 82 pts--fifth in the Central Division
8. Los Angeles (70--38-26-6) 36 ROW, 82 pts--third in the Pacific Division
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Anaheim (71--35-24-12) 31 ROW, 82 pts--fourth in the Pacific Division
Calgary (71--35-26-10) 33 ROW, 80 pts--fifth in the Pacific Division
St. Louis (69--37-27-5) 34 ROW, 79 pts--sixth in the Central Division


The number of games played are first and in bold.

[Singularity]

Originally Posted by Gaskal

% of odds does not take opponent playing levels into effect, do they?

Our next two games are Ottawa and NYI. Taking a look at the other teams upcoming games, it looks pretty favorable for us. Outside of Minnesota(VAN, EDM) and Colorado(CLB, AZ), everyone has two very tough teams next.

LA: Nashville, St. Louis
ANA: Dallas, St. Louis
SJ: Washington, St. Louis
STL: San Jose, LA
DAL: Anaheim, Pittsburgh

St.Louis is on the outside looking in

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Singularity

St.Louis is on the outside looking in

They are a point behind Calgary but with 2 games in hand.

They are listed at about a 42% chance of making the playoffs, Calgary is at 20%.


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[activeStick]

Minnesota lost Spurgeon last night for the rest of the year to injury. He plays the second most minutes on the backend per game after Suter.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Minnesota lost Spurgeon last night for the rest of the year to injury. He plays the second most minutes on the backend per game after Suter.

Actually kind of sucks. They're quite a bit ahead of us and they're likely un-catchable so I was hoping they could do us some favors since they're playing a lot of head to heads against the California teams. That's a big loss for them.

[Tsawwassen]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Minnesota lost Spurgeon last night for the rest of the year to injury. He plays the second most minutes on the backend per game after Suter.

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Actually kind of sucks. They're quite a bit ahead of us and they're likely un-catchable so I was hoping they could do us some favors since they're playing a lot of head to heads against the California teams. That's a big loss for them.

Huh? The Wild are only 5 points up on the Flames, they can be caught as they don't have an easy schedule.