[Signing] Flames sign Tanner Glass. 1 yr $650k

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

um, I didn't say that - wtf dude?

I think it was a lame attempt to try to say that ‘well hey Grossman earned a contract off a PTO last year and look how that turned out’

That said I do agree with your sentiment - Glass outplayed most of the wingers vying for that 4th line spots and he has earned a contract. If he doesn’t continues to impress it’s as easy as sending him down and I can’t help but think that if he does sign it’s going to be league minimum in $’s and will only be a 1 year.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Lots of people whine about the "always earned.." phrase whenever there is a decision they don't agree with. Well, Tanner Glass earned a contract. Deal with it. And not just barely. Of all the 4th liners competing for a job in pre-season, he was the best. He deserves a contract.

If it was truly "always earned" Hathaway would have had a spot on this team last year and Brouwer would have been eating popcorn.

What more could Hathaway have done so far in the NHL? He's played great and then watched this team continue to play Brouwer and then go sign a couple useless PTO's.

[Red Slinger]

There were a couple preseason games where I saw some opposing players taking liberties and Tanner Glass was the only guy that came over to let them know that their shenanigans weren't okay.

Glass is not a good hockey player and he's not a great face-puncher either. He's a vet who knows his role, understands the game and can sit in the press box for half the season or more without too much consternation.

I really liked Hathaway last season but I saw very little from him in the preseason. That is also true of a lot of guys on the team but certainly not guys on the roster bubble. I suspect after Hathaway gets his game calibrated back to where it should be he'll see some time on the Flames this season.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Itse

That's contradictory in itself.

If he was an awful 4th liner, he wouldn't have that very large sample size. Not on scrub teams either, he has mostly played on playoff teams and gone on two long playoff runs (2011 Canucks and 2015 Rangers, 20 GP and 19 GP.)

Faulty assumption. All of this was for Alain Vigneault. It seems that many coaches - even good ones - have random blind spots where they just love a certain player notwithstanding that said player is terrible at hockey. For Vigneault, it's Glass.

It's not the end of the world. It's just a bad decision. Every minute of ice time Tanner Glass plays for the Flames is a minute that could have been spent on someone better.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Lots of people whine about the "always earned.." phrase whenever there is a decision they don't agree with. Well, Tanner Glass earned a contract. Deal with it. And not just barely. Of all the 4th liners competing for a job in pre-season, he was the best. He deserves a contract.

I suppose you are correct but I would rather the organization fill the 4th line spots from within. There's not a lot of upside to Glass nearing his mid-30's. I just feel it's the old NHL mentality of over emphasizing experience. You know when the team offered Glass a PTO that he was a player the coach had in mind of bringing in because of familiarity so IMO he always had an inside track. His preseason play was good but I'm not surprised a veteran player with his back against the wall would play more urgently in the preseason than younger players still figuring things out as it's akin to doing enough job interviews that you know how to ace them only to once you get the job fall back into the employee that couldn't find work in the first place. I just hope Glass can maintain that level of play in the regular season or it's just a wasted contract.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

If you're upset about this, blame the players we had in the organization who failed to compete hard enough for that job.

Glass earned it, plain and simple. Give the man what he earned.

Maybe. But if we had a position open and all the applicants sucked, we would just not hire anybody.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I think it was a lame attempt to try to say that ‘well hey Grossman earned a contract off a PTO last year and look how that turned out’

That said I do agree with your sentiment - Glass outplayed most of the wingers vying for that 4th line spots and he has earned a contract. If he doesn’t continues to impress it’s as easy as sending him down and I can’t help but think that if he does sign it’s going to be league minimum in $’s and will only be a 1 year.

When will people understand that the only reason Grossman was on the team was a cap maneuver to maximize Smid's LTIR situation. It was completely 100% a cap move, not a hockey move. It was just a hand shake agreement to get him into a couple games early. The Glass situation is not even close the same situation.

I should say this isn't directed at you. Just quoted as it is referenced.

[TheKurgan]

If Glass earns a spot on the roster at the expense of Janko to the AHL I will be pissed.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Robbob

When will people understand that the only reason Grossman was on the team was a cap maneuver to maximize Smid's LTIR situation. It was completely 100% a cap move, not a hockey move. It was just a hand shake agreement to get him into a couple games early. The Glass situation is not even close the same situation.

I should say this isn't directed at you. Just quoted as it is referenced.

Meh, who really cares? In the end it cost the Flames points. Did they even use the cap space anyway?

Glass sucks. No contract please.

[Fire]

I think the delay in Glass's signing has to with Treliving trying to find a new home for Brouwer, Lazar or Stajan. Treliving will do everything he can to keep Jankowski on the roster, but since Brouwer, Lazar, F. Hamilton and Stajan haven't been put on waivers they are guaranteed to be on the opening day roster if not traded. Signing Glass now would force the Flames to send down Jankowski once Jagr is officially on the roster.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Fire

I think the delay in Glass's signing has to with Treliving trying to find a new home for Brouwer, Lazar or Stajan. Treliving will do everything he can to keep Jankowski on the roster, but since Brouwer, Lazar, F. Hamilton and Stajan haven't been put on waivers they are guaranteed to be on the opening day roster if not traded. Signing Glass now would force the Flames to send down Jankowski once Jagr is officially on the roster.

I think it may go something like this:

Sign glass right before ltir deadline.paper transaction for jankowski, move brouwer after a team gets their ltir situation confirmed, recall janko.

[868904]

Tanner Glass beat out Garnet Hathaway for a job.

Glass and Hathaway's role is "4th line grinder winger and pressbox popcorn eater". Glass brings more in terms of toughness, Hathaway brings more in terms of skill. The Flames actually needed more toughness with the loss of Engelland. I don't want Ferland in the box for 5 minutes because he's fighting the likes of Ryan Reeves or Josh Manson. And if a Flame is going to fight these guys, I don't want them to get destroyed like Hathaway would. Hathaway sucks as a fighter, Glass is not that big, but he can handle heavyweights very well, I don't know where some are getting the narrative that Glass isn't a good fighter, he's a very good fighter.

If Jankowski makes the team, it is not as "4th line grinder winger and pressbox popcorn eater".

The only players holding Jankowski down are Stajan, Lazar and Freddie. These 3 players can all play centre and the wing. The reality is, the Jagr signing will likely push Jankowski down to the AHL, because there is one less RW spot to put Lazar and Freddie. Everyone seems to love the Jagr signing, but this is the signing that has a true impact on Jankowski, not the Glass signing.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Fire

I think the delay in Glass's signing has to with Treliving trying to find a new home for Brouwer, Lazar or Stajan. Treliving will do everything he can to keep Jankowski on the roster, but since Brouwer, Lazar, F. Hamilton and Stajan haven't been put on waivers they are guaranteed to be on the opening day roster if not traded. Signing Glass now would force the Flames to send down Jankowski once Jagr is officially on the roster.

Agreed, it seems likely they're looking for a home for 1 of our overpaid 4th liners (Stajan, Brouwer).

I think if Treliving is willing to retain $1.5M of Brouwer's salary, there may be a buyer out there for him. It makes a lot more sense doing this versus buying him out in June of 2018.

[TheScorpion]

Dan Murphy @sportsnetmurph
Coming down to the wire but hearing #flames will sign Tanner Glass before 5pm EST.

[united]

Another one:


Rick Dhaliwal @DhaliwalSports
Hearing Tanner Glass will be signed before the 2pm Pacific Deadline.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Meh, who really cares? In the end it cost the Flames points. Did they even use the cap space anyway?

Glass sucks. No contract please.

The Flames would've needed to sweep every game Grossman played to change their position in the standings. Grossman didn't cost them any game they weren't losing anyway. This is a team that's won their season opener once in the last fifteen years. And even if they didn't use the cap space, how could Treliving have known he wouldn't need to use it? Or maybe he tried and couldn't get it done. There could be lots of sane explanations.

[Vinny01]

If a Brouwer or Stajan deal happens like won't be until after 3pm?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

If you're upset about this, blame the players we had in the organization who failed to compete hard enough for that job.

Glass earned it, plain and simple. Give the man what he earned.

Yep. Same thing goes for the RWers. Jagr got their spot because they didn't win it.

[sureLoss]

more confirmation... agent has loose lips

Dhiren Mahiban @dcmahiban
Tanner Glass, on a PTO with the #Flames, will sign a 1-year deal in Calgary today.

[ComixZone]

so, barring anything else changing prior to today's deadline we're going to see:

14 Forwards:

Gaudreau
Monahan
Ferland
Tkachuk
Backlund
Frolik
Versteeg
Bennett
Brouwer
Glass
Stajan
Hamilton
Jankowski
Lazar

7 Defencemen:

Giordano
Hamilton
Brodie
Hamonic
Bartkowski
Stone
Kulak

2 Goalies:

Smith
Lack

For 23 players.

This means once the Jagr signing is made official later this week, we'll be at 24 players...so, something else is cooking here. May take a day or two to come out, but something is happening.