[News] Flames sign Tanner Glass to PTO

[TheScorpion]

If Tanner Glass is signed here, he'll essentially play the same role as Marek Hrivik and Luke Gazdic: a decent-enough mentor for the kids while perhaps playing spot duty on minor injuries. Guys like Klimchuk, Mangiapane, and Poirier should handle the larger call-ups.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

We almost signed Korpikoski before Dallas saved us.

Well that's just not true.

Flames released Korpikovski from the PTO on October 9th
Stars signed him on the 10th

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Locke

Technically we did sign Kris Versteeg from a PTO with the Oilers, so theres also that.



But Grossman was...well...grossly unacceptable. That was a nightmare.

And it lasted for only a handful of games. I would think—given what happened with Grossman—that if anything the Flames would be more cautious now when it comes to signing PTOs to NHL contracts.

Besides, the circumstances are completely different this time around. Last year when Grossman was added to the opening night roster the Flames had three NHL calibre defense men in camp. Tanner Glass will be jockeying for a position on the bottom rung of an already crowded forward group.

I don't get why there is even a modicum if concern under these conditions.

[FBI]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

The only reason is should scare you is because Glass would have EARNED his spot in the lineup over a lot of young players we are expecting to be NHL quality. If there are so few young guys capable of outplaying Tanner Glass for a job, our farm system is in serious trouble.

If Glass sticks as a 14th forward, it also means next to nothing as he'll probably never get in the lineup. But, if there's a last minute injury he has enough veteran experience to not hurt his club.

I honestly doubt it'll come to this.

I guess I'm more scared that he's pretty useless and still gets signed.. I think the Grossmann thing scarred me.. It was SO obvious he was useless. Oh well hopefully a one time mishap..

[codynw]

Originally Posted by drewtastic

And I trust management in their decision making, so, I don't stress about PTOs.

Why exactly do you trust them when it comes to PTOs? This is the same team that just one year ago signed and played Grossman in multiple games, where he directly costed the team points in the standings.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FBI

I guess I'm more scared that he's pretty useless and still gets signed.. I think the Grossmann thing scarred me.. It was SO obvious he was useless. Oh well hopefully a one time mishap..

One of these things is not like the other...

Originally Posted by Textcritic

...the circumstances are completely different this time around. Last year when Grossman was added to the opening night roster the Flames had three NHL calibre defense men in camp. Tanner Glass will be jockeying for a position on the bottom rung of an already crowded forward group.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by codynw

Why exactly do you trust them when it comes to PTOs? This is the same team that just one year ago signed and played Grossman in multiple games, where he directly costed the team points in the standings.

I trust them more to get it right now in the light of how poorly things turned out with Grossman. The coaches clearly recognized the mistake with how quickly he was bought out; it stands to reason that they would be all the more diligent this time around.

[Housley4Prez]

If we can meme Jagr into coming here, we can certainly meme Glass into staying the hell away.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If Tanner Glass is signed here, he'll essentially play the same role as Marek Hrivik and Luke Gazdic: a decent-enough mentor for the kids while perhaps playing spot duty on minor injuries. Guys like Klimchuk, Mangiapane, and Poirier should handle the larger call-ups.

Gazdic and Glass aren't "decent mentors" unless you mean they'll show the prospects how not to play.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by codynw

Gazdic and Glass aren't "decent mentors" unless you mean they'll show the prospects how not to play.

Hate statements like these. How do any of us know who is or isn't a good mentor or leader?
Brian McGrattan has been lauded for his mentorship of young players, while playing and now in retirement, could any of us have predicted that?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by codynw

Gazdic and Glass aren't "decent mentors" ...

How do you know whether they are or not? There are lots of ways young players require guidance.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I wonder who else is in the works for a PTO. For everyone freaking out about Glass, I would bet it is to just satisfy the minimum vet rule for the pre-season games, and add some toughness to boot when you have a bunch of kids trying to make their mark.

I give this a zero percent chance of Glass earning a contract with the Flames. I expect a few other PTOs being signed that will further make people anxious.

Grossman made the team last year partly because Gulutzan didn't have his finger on the pulse of the team yet, and the Flames were really trying to get bigger... but mostly because the bottom end of the defence was rather poor. Treliving felt he needed the depth. Does anyone feel that the forwards are a legitimate problem like defence was last season?

Pre-season roster fodder/deterrent. That's all this signing means in my mind. Unless Glass has worked with a skills coach this off-season and magically turned into a legitimate depth scorer, he isn't making the squad. Bollig played ALL of last season on the farm team when I thought for sure he would get recalled at some point. Hathaway - who is a useful depth player - was barely inserted into the line-up. Treliving has been on record stating that he expects Jankowski to be pushing for a spot, and with the likes of Poirier and Shinkaruk being waiver eligible, I think it is safe to say that Glass has no chance at a roster spot.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by codynw

Gazdic and Glass aren't "decent mentors" unless you mean they'll show the prospects how not to play.

I don't necessarily mean on-ice. Glass is 33 and has been around the block a few times. He was a ninth-rounder who had to fight to even make it to the NHL. While he might not be the best player, I imagine there's stuff that players could learn from that journey.

[GreenLantern2814]

Tanner Glass was one of Alain Vingeault's inexplicable favorite players. He's trash.

Warm body for camp, I guess.

[Wolfman]

Considering how the Flames got pushed around last few years, it wouldn't hurt to have a sheriff back in the line-up.

[FlameFan21]

[FlamesFanTrev]

Originally Posted by FBI

I guess I'm more scared that he's pretty useless and still gets signed.. I think the Grossmann thing scarred me.. It was SO obvious he was useless. Oh well hopefully a one time mishap..

Remember too that Grossman was a means to an end. Last year, the flames had to get as close to the cap as they could before the start of the season in order to maximize the benefit of Ladi Smid's LTIR. He should never have dressed in my opinion, but the plan was to get him to sign the contract (575K i Believe) to push the number right to the cap limit, and then was terminated once the season started. But yes, I still wake up with night terrors occasionally when I think of him playing.... it was like he had 2 left skates and a lacross stick out there.

[drewtastic]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I trust them more to get it right now in the light of how poorly things turned out with Grossman. The coaches clearly recognized the mistake with how quickly he was bought out; it stands to reason that they would be all the more diligent this time around.

Pretty much the exact response I was going to give--and hey: if you're going to have someone speak on your behalf, who better than TC?

(Thanks, TC! )

[Love]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Considering how the Flames got pushed around last few years, it wouldn't hurt to have a sheriff back in the line-up.

I don't really remember us getting all that pushed around last season

[Groot]

A friend of mine, Ryan Stone, suffered a devastating knee injury on a hit from Glass, effectively taking him out of the NHL (he was on the Flames LTIR for his final year in the league).

Totally irrational but I couldn't care less, I grew up playing with Stone and his brothers, for that sole reason I never want to see him anywhere near Flames silks. Hope he get embarrassed in camp and run out of town.