Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-25-2017, 10:32 AM   #61
Violator
On Hiatus
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Exp:
Default

Best friend did this a couple years ago with his baby mama.....didnt really work out for him as the realionship is now rocky.
Violator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 10:41 AM   #62
Weitz
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke View Post
I see your point and I understand that, but I also understand what everyone is saying, if you're going into a marriage with the thought in the back of your mind that it might fail, it more than likely will.

The faith in the totality of the marriage is part of what makes marriages work.
I Agree. If you go into a marriage with any thought other than it lasting forever you probably won't last.
Weitz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Weitz For This Useful Post:
Old 08-25-2017, 10:47 AM   #63
Fighting Banana Slug
#1 Goaltender
 
Fighting Banana Slug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames View Post
I'm naive to expect my marriage to last forever?

If I expect it to fail at some point, why even get married in the first place? I'm sure anything can happen, but I still expect to be with her when I'm dying.
So you think you and your wife are going to die at the same time? Marriages end for different reasons.
__________________
From HFBoard oiler fan, in analyzing MacT's management:
O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.
Fighting Banana Slug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 10:52 AM   #64
OutOfTheCube
Franchise Player
 
OutOfTheCube's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Exp:
Default

Man a lot of cynicism towards marriage in this thread.

I guess we're just pretty confident in how things are going, we get along really well and don't have major fights and work well not just as a relationship, but as partners in all things to do with life (money, work, life, kids). Yes, many marriages are bad ideas and we've seen a lot that we personally know fall apart very quickly. But there certainly aren't those seed of trouble in our relationship -- if anything, we've only got closer as we've grown and matured and started a family together in the last 4 years. And, we didn't live together before we were married.

We also come from families full of stable marriages (both sets of parents married to one person for 30+ years, all four sets of grandparents married to one person for 40+ years) so I would assume that would affect one's perception of marriage as well.
OutOfTheCube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 10:55 AM   #65
Locke
Franchise Player
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube View Post
Man a lot of cynicism towards marriage in this thread.

I guess we're just pretty confident in how things are going, we get along really well and don't have major fights and work well not just as a relationship, but as partners in all things to do with life (money, work, life, kids). Yes, many marriages are bad ideas and we've seen a lot that we personally know fall apart very quickly. But there certainly aren't those seed of trouble in our relationship -- if anything, we've only got closer as we've grown and matured and started a family together in the last 4 years. And, we didn't live together before we were married.

We also come from families full of stable marriages (both sets of parents married to one person for 30+ years, all four sets of grandparents married to one person for 40+ years) so I would assume that would affect one's perception of marriage as well.
A healthy amount of cynicism in certain respects is healthy.

I'll toss my hat in the ring, I'm a little old school and I'm not a huge fan of tattoos or insane piercings or things of that nature.

Some people like them and thats their bag, thats cool. But none for me thanks.

I also have a fairly solid policy concerning things of this nature:

Tattoos are for dead relatives only. They're the only people that dont change and wont disappoint you.
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!

This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.

The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans

If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Locke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:01 AM   #66
Fighting Banana Slug
#1 Goaltender
 
Fighting Banana Slug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

I really don't see it as cynicism, more like realism. No one is saying it will happen to you, just that it could. Even with the best intentions and immaculate track record of family, divorce happens. I don't believe thinking about it prior to marriage would lead to a higher likelihood of divorce, but I would be interested in seeing if there were any studies out there. I would think those entering marriage and seriously considering the real-life consequences would lead to more success.
Again, a spouse dying is not only a possibility, it is a certainty. Are the tattoo proponents saying the surviving spouse should not remarry?
__________________
From HFBoard oiler fan, in analyzing MacT's management:
O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.
Fighting Banana Slug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:04 AM   #67
Slava
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke View Post
A healthy amount of cynicism in certain respects is healthy.

I'll toss my hat in the ring, I'm a little old school and I'm not a huge fan of tattoos or insane piercings or things of that nature.

Some people like them and thats their bag, thats cool. But none for me thanks.

I also have a fairly solid policy concerning things of this nature:

Tattoos are for dead relatives only. They're the only people that dont change and wont disappoint you.
Oh come on, we all know that Adam Lallama tattoo is yours! You're not fooling anyone!
Slava is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Slava For This Useful Post:
Old 08-25-2017, 11:07 AM   #68
Locke
Franchise Player
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug View Post
I really don't see it as cynicism, more like realism. No one is saying it will happen to you, just that it could. Even with the best intentions and immaculate track record of family, divorce happens. I don't believe thinking about it prior to marriage would lead to a higher likelihood of divorce, but I would be interested in seeing if there were any studies out there. I would think those entering marriage and seriously considering the real-life consequences would lead to more success.
Again, a spouse dying is not only a possibility, it is a certainty. Are the tattoo proponents saying the surviving spouse should not remarry?
That is a whole other line of reasoning, trust me, I'm married to someone whose first spouse passed away, you know what happens? The next spouse understands.

Just because they re-marry doesnt mean the deceased first spouse is simply forgotten, you understand and move along.

Thats a far cry from a divorce where these two people might hate each other.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava View Post
Oh come on, we all know that Adam Lallama tattoo is yours! You're not fooling anyone!
You got me. I thought it was clever at the time.
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!

This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.

The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans

If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Locke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:11 AM   #69
OutOfTheCube
Franchise Player
 
OutOfTheCube's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke View Post
That is a whole other line of reasoning, trust me, I'm married to someone whose first spouse passed away, you know what happens? The next spouse understands.

Just because they re-marry doesnt mean the deceased first spouse is simply forgotten, you understand and move along.
That's what I was going to say -- even if she died the next day it would still be something important to me for the rest of my life. I would hope anyone else I met down the line would be understanding of that.

Plus I'd have two young boys to raise by myself. Wouldn't exactly be in the dating game anytime soon!
OutOfTheCube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:14 AM   #70
Locke
Franchise Player
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube View Post
That's what I was going to say -- even if she died the next day it would still be something important to me for the rest of my life. I would hope anyone else I met down the line would be understanding of that.

Plus I'd have two young boys to raise by myself. Wouldn't exactly be in the dating game anytime soon!
This treads the line between hypothetical and reality for me, but even if you are eventually back in the 'Dating Game' you're not going to get far if the next person you fall in love with isnt understanding of the importance and meaning of your prior relationship.

If the new spouse says: "I want you to get your wedding ring tattoo lasered off because you're with me now and I want no reminders of your prior spouse or relationship!!"

Thats not really reasonable.
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!

This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.

The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans

If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Locke is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:17 AM   #71
Poster
Crash and Bang Winger
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames View Post
Still doesn't change the fact that it should be permanent.
says who? you?

whats it your business anyway?
Poster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 11:19 AM   #72
speede5
First Line Centre
 
speede5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by driveway View Post
Out of curiosity: what job(s) involve so much labour you can't wear your ring, but not enough to require gloves?
It's not the amount of labour, it's the snag hazard. I work on aircraft and there are lots of ways to catch a ring on something. Also I have worked on electronics and having metal conductors on your hands is not the best idea.

If your bored and have a strong stomach click the link below. You'll notice most of the injuries are to the wedding ring finger.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=ring+...w=1680&bih=984
speede5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 12:31 PM   #73
DuffMan
Franchise Player
 
DuffMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
Exp:
Icon34

Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz View Post
I Agree. If you go into a marriage with any thought other than it lasting forever you probably won't last.
Wrong.
__________________
Pass the bacon.
DuffMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 12:44 PM   #74
DuffMan
Franchise Player
 
DuffMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: 127.0.0.1
Exp:
Default

Are couples who get permanent wedding ring tattoos, trying to convince themselves of something, that the rest of us don't need to?
__________________
Pass the bacon.
DuffMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 01:13 PM   #75
Fighting Banana Slug
#1 Goaltender
 
Fighting Banana Slug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke View Post
This treads the line between hypothetical and reality for me, but even if you are eventually back in the 'Dating Game' you're not going to get far if the next person you fall in love with isnt understanding of the importance and meaning of your prior relationship.

If the new spouse says: "I want you to get your wedding ring tattoo lasered off because you're with me now and I want no reminders of your prior spouse or relationship!!"

Thats not really reasonable.
My only point was that marriage is not necessarily forever, even with the best of intentions. A permanent tattoo (as much as it is permanent) doesn't change that and I dispute the notion that "thinking" about the end of a relationship may somehow doom that relationship to failure. Not really directed at yourself or Cube
__________________
From HFBoard oiler fan, in analyzing MacT's management:
O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.

Last edited by Fighting Banana Slug; 08-25-2017 at 01:17 PM.
Fighting Banana Slug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 01:34 PM   #76
afc wimbledon
Franchise Player
 
afc wimbledon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke View Post
Its not about matching its about being able to stand hip to hip and they complete one big tattoo.
With an image of Alfred E Neumann saying 'What, me worry?' presumably
afc wimbledon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 01:39 PM   #77
afc wimbledon
Franchise Player
 
afc wimbledon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube View Post
That's what I was going to say -- even if she died the next day it would still be something important to me for the rest of my life. I would hope anyone else I met down the line would be understanding of that.

Plus I'd have two young boys to raise by myself. Wouldn't exactly be in the dating game anytime soon!
Whole heap of difference between being understanding of an old ring sitting at the back of a drawer and some dusty photos in an album and having to answer questions by every friend and relative as to why you have a ring tattooed on your finger and she doesn't.
afc wimbledon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 01:48 PM   #78
CroFlames
Franchise Player
 
CroFlames's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Poster View Post
says who? you?

whats it your business anyway?
Don't most people vow to stay with one another until "death do us part"?


noun
noun: vow; plural noun: vows
  1. 1.
    a solemn promise.
    synonyms, pledge, promise, bond, covenant, commitment, avowal, profession, affirmation, attestation, assurance, guarantee; Moreword, word of honor;
    formaltroth
    "a vow of silence"
    • a set of promises committing one to a prescribed role, calling, or course of action, typically to marriage or a monastic career.




verb
verb: vow; 3rd person present: vows; past tense: vowed; past participle: vowed; gerund or present participle: vowing
1.
solemnly promise to do a specified thing.
"he vowed that his government would not tolerate a repeat of the disorder"
synonyms:swear, pledge, promise, avow, undertake, engage, make a commitment, give one's word, guarantee; archaicplight
CroFlames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 02:44 PM   #79
OutOfTheCube
Franchise Player
 
OutOfTheCube's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DuffMan View Post
Are couples who get permanent wedding ring tattoos, trying to convince themselves of something, that the rest of us don't need to?
Writing tip: this is a complete sentence that doesn't need any commas.

And I think we get it: you don't wear a ring and you've been married for a while, you're totally awesome, you know everything about marriage, etc.

Still, there are those of us who find rings uncomfortable that do actually want to still have some sort of outward physical representation of our commitment. Not sure why it seems to bother you so much.
OutOfTheCube is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2017, 02:44 PM   #80
PepsiFree
Participant
Participant
 
PepsiFree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Exp:
Default

People are arguing two different things.

Yes, everyone goes into marriage with the intention of it being permanent.

No, marriage is not intrinsically/definitively permanent.

Both of these things can be true without anybody being wrong, can't they? I would hope nobody goes in dumb enough to see it as a temporary arrangement (unless for citizenship reasons) or naive enough to believe it definitely won't end.

I don't have many married friends, but of the few that are I don't know anyone who isn't aware of both of the above.
PepsiFree is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:51 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy