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Old 11-06-2016, 10:17 PM   #61
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I didn't watch last night because I was at a party and I didn't watch tonight because I didn't have much faith with the curse. I don't think I can stomach watching another game until something serious is done.

I know the chances of Gulutzan being canned this early are slim as much as I want it to happen but I just want to see something done to show Treliving isn't just going to sit back and let this get worse.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:18 PM   #62
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I thought the dog dropping the puck at the start was cool. That is all
Dang dog had us beat from the start. Cute tho
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:18 PM   #63
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These are dark times we're living in.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:18 PM   #64
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Treliving, end of last season:
"You can't be 30th in special teams for a large majority of the season,"

Treliving, upon firing Bob Hartley:
"Our special teams, for a good portion of the year we were 30th in the league."
"Special teams, those are critical areas to have any type of success."


Calgary Flames special teams, 2016/17:

PP - 28th
PK - 29th
Boom

Was totally bad coaching. Thats why they hired Dave Cameron and kept Sigalet.
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Of the five games won so far, three of them have been against some pretty good teams in CHI, STL, and SJ. So this team can compete. Just so many errant passes, turnovers, missed nets. I'm tending to think it's either a symptom of not buying into a new system or the new system simply not being effective.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:18 PM   #66
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Treliving, end of last season:
"You can't be 30th in special teams for a large majority of the season,"

Treliving, upon firing Bob Hartley:
"Our special teams, for a good portion of the year we were 30th in the league."
"Special teams, those are critical areas to have any type of success."


Calgary Flames special teams, 2016/17:

PP - 28th
PK - 29th
This is the only problem with the flames this year. Special teams.

5-on-5 has actually be quite good after the weak first 5 games. Its why I'm still wait-and-see with these coaches.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:18 PM   #67
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Am I the only one not in a glass case of emotion

Aside from poor special teams they looked pretty good
Considering 20% of every game is played with special teams, you won't win if they're poor.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:19 PM   #68
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Bigger question, does GG gave the balls to bench some the players that need benching?
I think he is past the point of no return, benching players now will only piss them off collectively.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:19 PM   #69
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We outplayed them. Very strong possession, excellent pressure. Whats lacking is they can't make good enough offensive plays to generate higher quality scoring chances. Johnny is turning it over every other time he touches the puck.

Need to find a way to put the puck in the net, and once we do we are home free. Not sure why everything is always on the coach. Someone put up the stats previously of coaches who started off super slow and went on to do some pretty great things - Deboer and Johnston i think it was (they were in the cup final last year). I know time is dwindling but I liked the effort out there tonight. But once again, find a way to finish.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:19 PM   #71
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Wow Laine tied for league lead in goals.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:20 PM   #72
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So mission accomplished not 30th.
Well, they are 30th in total special teams % (PP% + PK%)

they are just absolutely terrible
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One of the Flames' strengths the past 2 seasons has been our smooth skating, puck moving defense but it feels like this new system disallows them to do anything
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:20 PM   #74
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Admittedly I didn't watch the game so I'm not as emotionally invested, but man, I would sacrifice a lot to have the Flames beat the Ducks at the Honda Center. I'd give even more to see them absolutely embarrass to the tune of 10+ ala Columbus.

Oh well maybe next time...
How many goats are we talking?

You're gonna need a lot to get this wish.
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Old 11-06-2016, 10:20 PM   #75
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Of the five games won so far, three of them have been against some pretty good teams in CHI, STL, and SJ. So this team can compete. Just so many errant passes, turnovers, missed nets. I'm tending to think it's either a symptom of not buying into a new system or the new system simply not being effective.
If Hartley's team had half decent goaltending last season they were in the playoffs. Doesn't look like firing him did anything.
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At least with Hartley, the games were exciting. Even when the Flames lost I was often entertained.

This is unwatchable.
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Of the five games won so far, three of them have been against some pretty good teams in CHI, STL, and SJ. So this team can compete. Just so many errant passes, turnovers, missed nets. I'm tending to think it's either a symptom of not buying into a new system or the new system simply not being effective.
And 5 of the 8 losses have been against bottom 10 teams.
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And 5 of the 8 losses have been against bottom 10 teams.
come on now...name them

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In all fairness, the weak PP and PK might be coaching...but it also might be that Gio, Brodie, Johnny and Monahan haven't been very good. And they're kinda important for special teams...
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