[Rumour] LeBrun: Dougie Hamilton's name is out there, but Flames not shopping him

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Those 3 names are on every good ignore list!

Never use the ignore list, you lose the full flavored CP experience.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Those 3 names are on every good ignore list!

Sadly, I've given up on the ignore list - at least until some sort of functionality is introduced to have ignored posts be censored out when other people quote their posts.

[bax]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

It's stuff like this post that makes discussion go off the rails.... 90% means he would be in the top 21 defensemen in the league.... Not now, not at any time in the the past and maybe not ever.



Hamilton is 93rd in the league in TOI/game.... That puts him as the top of the #4 Dmen.



He may be a fast skater but he is slow to react and not quick. He may be big but he is not physical or at all sound defensively.



Before I thought that he just might not have been a favorite of Hartley... However we have a New coach, less depth on defense (Russell gone) and same limited amount of ice.



Right now Hamilton would have about the equivalent value of Darnell Nurse who is playing #5 minutes with the Oilers.... Right now if Nurse was on the Flames he would be getting more ice time than Hamilton.



He finishes out the year like he started and he will have negative trade value.

Darnell Nurse? And his career high 10 points? Man....

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

It's stuff like this post that makes discussion go off the rails....

[saillias]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Can a mod please suspend me for 30 days?

I can't handle this level of stupid anymore and if left to my own devices I'll feel the need to start absolutely trashing some of the idiots that post on this forum.

im getting close to this point too. I can handle most "controversial" posters, moon or ricardodw or gaudreauvertime. but some of these new guys are extra special.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

I love the internet for posts like this.

Wait. Is this a good thing, or...?

[flamesforcup]

lol people saying hes on a good contract make me laugh.

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

It's stuff like this post that makes discussion go off the rails.... 90% means he would be in the top 21 defensemen in the league.... Not now, not at any time in the the past and maybe not ever.

Hamilton is 93rd in the league in TOI/game.... That puts him as the top of the #4 Dmen.

He may be a fast skater but he is slow to react and not quick. He may be big but he is not physical or at all sound defensively.

Before I thought that he just might not have been a favorite of Hartley... However we have a New coach, less depth on defense (Russell gone) and same limited amount of ice.

Right now Hamilton would have about the equivalent value of Darnell Nurse who is playing #5 minutes with the Oilers.... Right now if Nurse was on the Flames he would be getting more ice time than Hamilton.

He finishes out the year like he started and he will have negative trade value.

exactly people here are in denial. How long can u keep using the age excuse when u see no improvment and hes been in the league for what 5 years? I cant wait for the day hes traded than we will see everyones tune change and trash on him. People here love to blindly defend all our players but when we have been so garbage so far and the coach is using him as a #5 and rumors of flames shopping him u know somethings wrong.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

lol people saying hes on a good contract make me laugh.

It's too soon to tell. Was always high initially with better value towards the end of the deal if he progresses to where people believe he will be.

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Can a mod please suspend me for 30 days?

I can't handle this level of stupid anymore and if left to my own devices I'll feel the need to start absolutely trashing some of the idiots that post on this forum.

Cant handle criticism of our players? while being the worst dman in the league is a huge exaggeration he has been by far our worst player.

[sureLoss]

Audio: (Flames talk starts around the 3:50 mark)

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-10...grabs-1.591327

[bigrangy]

He's on an average contract, just like Monahan is. He outproduces all his comparables, and gets paid accordingly. The only d-men around his age (still in RFA years) that get paid less for producing more are OEL, Barrie, Faulk and Brodie.

He was signed knowing that he wasn't yet at his peak. He has some 50+ point seasons in him I guarantee it.

[bax]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

exactly people here are in denial. How long can u keep using the age excuse when u see no improvment and hes been in the league for what 5 years? I cant wait for the day hes traded than we will see everyones tune change and trash on him. People here love to blindly defend all our players but when we have been so garbage so far and the coach is using him as a #5 and rumors of flames shopping him u know somethings wrong.

You are so wise! Please tell me how you would improve this team right now?

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

It's too soon to tell. Was always high initially with better value towards the end of the deal if he progresses to where people believe he will be.

ya we will see. Last year i was one of those people who used to defend him but its been 2 years in a row with no improvment im starting to lose patience. He has all the tools but no brain.

[burn_this_city]

He was pretty solid in the second half last year. Hard to say he's been a disappointment overall. I think people's expectations weren't aligned with what a 22 year old defenseman can be reasonably expected to do.

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by bax

You are so wise! Please tell me how you would improve this team right now?

i would trade dougie for trouba or something (doubt wpg would do that). We need a defensive dman to improve our team and according to what wpg fans say hes not too good offensivly but good defensivly

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

He was pretty solid in the second half last year. Hard to say he's been a disappointment overall. I think people's expectations weren't aligned with what a 22 year old defenseman can be reasonably expected to do.

he might have been getting points in the second half but he was still bad defensivly. He only started producing when we were out of it.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

lol people saying hes on a good contract make me laugh.

Hamilton came off a 10 goal, 42 assist season as a 21 year old defenseman. He's big, he's right-handed and the deal bought two UFA years. Is it a steal of contract? Nope. But it's a pretty good one for sure. It was reported at the time that the Bruins offered 6 x 5.5m, then the Flames signed him to 6 x 5.75m. Hate the deal all you want, it's at the very least a market-value contract.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

Cant handle criticism of our players? while being the worst dman in the league is a huge exaggeration he has been by far our worst player.

Criticism? What the hell are you talking about. These are severe overreactions and false accusations by dumb, stupid, idiotic, pathetic, sad excuses of Flames fans.

I get that posters like Ricardodw drum up more site traffic with their silly, controversial opinions on anything Flames related, but it's to the point where I find it impossible to have a reasonable Flames discussion on this forum.

The percentage of idiotic posters on this forum has officially climbed past an acceptable level and I'm done.

[Sutter_in_law]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

Dennis Wideman says hello.

Dennis puts up good numbers but does that mean he is a good defenceman?

Dennis Wideman didn't put up a 40pt season till he was 26, and didn't accomplish that feat again until he was 29.

Actual facts say hello