Nothing "caught up" to Ryan Howse... he just wasn't very good (even in junior). The guy had one good tool (in junior) everything else was average or below.
he also signed up on CP and trolled the abbotsford forum. or, at least several posters had decided that a certain poster was probably him.
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I could care less what he weighs. The kid impressed at camp last year, and then went on to have another solid year in the OHL. I fully expect him to impress this year as well.
Big Buff's weight fluctuates like crazy, yet he delivers year in and year out.
6'1 and 220 lbs. Yeah that's a pudgy kid right there.
Obviously it's about what you do on the ice that matters. But if he's actually out of shape it's going to show later in games and he won't be as good of a player because of it.
Regardless, this isn't even close to a Ryan Howse situation. He was as 1-dimensional as it gets and I'm not sure better conditioning would of changed that.
Players like Big Buff only demonstrate that in very rare cases a player who is really talented can over come not being well conditioned. For the most part they vast majority of players in the NHL today are in really good shape. Anyone who isn't is reducing their chances of making it
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I think the perception of "fit" and "conditioned" get interchanged but aren't really the same. To be cut with a low body weight is one thing. To be conditioned to be able to play a full game and a full season is not necessarily the same thing. The NFL shows this pretty definitively.
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I could care less what he weighs. The kid impressed at camp last year, and then went on to have another solid year in the OHL. I fully expect him to impress this year as well.
Big Buff's weight fluctuates like crazy, yet he delivers year in and year out.
Ugh...I hate that. I like Buff as a player but weight fluctuations like his cant be good for him.
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I think the perception of "fit" and "conditioned" get interchanged but aren't really the same. To be cut with a low body weight is one thing. To be conditioned to be able to play a full game and a full season is not necessarily the same thing. The NFL shows this pretty definitively.
Exactly. And the specific thing that the Flames brass has expressed concerns about is conditioning.
Looks like he's down a couple of pounds since July. The boss seems pleased...
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I think the perception of "fit" and "conditioned" get interchanged but aren't really the same. To be cut with a low body weight is one thing. To be conditioned to be able to play a full game and a full season is not necessarily the same thing. The NFL shows this pretty definitively.
NFL conditioning and NHL conditioning are a whole different animal.
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Players like Big Buff only demonstrate that in very rare cases a player who is really talented can over come not being well conditioned. For the most part they vast majority of players in the NHL today are in really good shape. Anyone who isn't is reducing their chances of making it
Yeah, Andersson might turn out to be one of the 5 or 6 guys in the NHL who excels in spite of poor conditioning. But the odds are not good.
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Nobody would mistake a shirtless Drew Doughty as a professional athlete as he's struggled with his weight yet he can still play a tonne of minutes. He doesn't have to be chiseled or slim as long as he can take a regular shift without issue.
NFL conditioning and NHL conditioning are a whole different animal.
Yeah, I remember reading an NFL game is 3 hrs long, but only 11 minutes of actual playing time. Then only a 16 game season, with one game per week. Granted those guys go 100% every down, but that's a substantial difference in the type of conditioning needed.
Nobody would mistake a shirtless Drew Doughty as a professional athlete as he's struggled with his weight yet he can still play a tonne of minutes. He doesn't have to be chiseled or slim as long as he can take a regular shift without issue.
Okay, so we have Doughty. Byfuglien. Kessel. What do those guys have in common, besides being in not great shape? They're naturally elite skaters. From what I understand, Andersson is going to have to improve just to be an average skater by NHL standards.
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