[Trade] Panthers trade Bolland and Crouse to the Coyotes for a 2017 3rd and cond 2018 2nd

[Parallex]

Nm. Getback said it better

[Fire of the Phoenix]

So, by taking on roughly the same amount that the Flames pay Matt Stajan and Brandon Bollig, the Coyotes have managed to solve their salary floor problems AND acquire two impressive prospects in the process?

Doogie Howser G.M. might just make it after all.

While he's probably benefiting from timing, comparing him to Feaster is unfair. As another poster said, back then there was compliance buyouts and a rising cap to make it more difficult for Feaster. But that isn't to take anything away from Chayka. However you spin it, this is a huge win for the Coyotes. They could package Chychrun and Crowse and get a Hall's worth of players back at the least. Pretty good for $4m and change, circumstances and luck be damned.

[TheScorpion]

Chayka is a genius. How have the Coyotes managed this?

What a guy.

[activeStick]

He's clearly executing which is a key measure of successful executives. Many have the right ideas and plans but can't execute for a number of reasons.

It will be interesting to watch that team over the next 5 years. Not sure how keen his sense of judgement is on hockey players or if he has enough humility to accept the scenario where he may not be the strongest in that area and be willing to defer and trust those recommendations to more proven folks... Another key aspect of strong executives...

[Samonadreau]

This deal has huge upside for Arizona but as we have learned a crappy salary can hamstring a rebuild. Not a bad deal but it has a chance to work in Florida's favor in the end. There is a reason Crouse slipped out of the top 10 in the draft. Sounds like the Pantera's prospect pool is weak right now but they did pick up McCann which will add to their forward depth chart.

This trade could go either way depending on how good Crouse winds up being.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by getbak

No. They're taking on $20 million in cap hit for those players but only actually paying out a fraction of that. Also, they received assets in return for taking on the bad contracts.

If that tweet from Lawton is accurate, and they're only paying $1.1 million of Bolland's salary, there's very little money coming out of pocket for that $20 million in cap hit.

Datsyuk: $7.5M cap / $0 paid
Pronger: $4.935M cap / $575,000 paid
Bolland: $5.5M cap / $1.1M paid
Vermette: $1.25M cap/paid (rather than $3.75M for full contract)
Ribeiro: $1.44M cap/paid (rather than $6M for full contract)


Total cap hit: $20.625M ... Total paid: $4.365M.

The Coyotes are going to be team that will be really close to the Salary cap floor for the next several years. Using the above players to artificially add cap.

They have made interesting trades to acquire really decent prospects.

Problem is they could be a last placed team for a while.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by flambers

The Coyotes are going to be team that will be really close to the Salary cap floor for the next several years. Using the above players to artificially add cap.

They have made interesting trades to acquire really decent prospects.

Problem is they could be a last placed team for a while.

They have added Goligoski and Schenn on defense moving Dahlbeck and Michalek to 7/8

They have added McGinn, Vrbata Ryan White, Dvorak and Strome as forwards replacing Vermette, Bodekker, Boyd Gordon, Chipchurra, Sekac and Tangauy.


It looks like they will be icing a significantly better team than the one that tied the Flames in the standings last year.

Unless it was totally the goalies fault last season for the Flames it could be argued that the Coyotes have made a bigger upgrade than the Flames and have done a better job filling the holes. ie their hopeful additions of Dvorak and Strome has a chance to work out a lot better than adding Shinkaruk/Pribyl/Vey/Chassion
.

Their adding Gologski and Schenn beats the Flames adding Jokipakka and getting Wideman back for a full year.

Maybe it is because I am a Flames homer but the Flames leaving: Hudler, Russell, Colbourne, Jones are more significant than what the Yotes lost.

My take on what the Flames have done from last year from another post:

add
Brouwer - makes any line he plays on better than what the same line was last year!
Elliott - very much better than what the Flames had last year . In 2014-15 was identical statswise to Hiller. A bit worried that all St. L. could get for him was a 2nd round pick and they could have kept him if they wanted him.
Johnson - played well on a non-playoff team - he might have a better temperament to succeed on the Flames than the hyper-competitive intense Elliott
Chaisson - players you need to fill in the roster.... replaces Jones
Vey - lack of depth in the Flames system ...
Hathaway - needed when Bouma is hurt and provides ability to bench Ferland
Bouma - lot of whining about his 2m contact but was missed last year and was brought back at somewhat less than 100% in the playoffs.
Jokipakka - what we wanted Wotherspoon to develop into.
Wideman - missed 31 games ... played far better than expected when Gio was hurt in 2014-15.

out

Russell - was able to play well with Hamilton... Gio and Brodie's own game fell off when paired with Hamilton
Hudler - was the #1 RW until he was traded
Colborne - leaves a hole in the top 6.
Jones - NHL quality middle 6 that provided some heft... way overpaid
Jooris - not big enough or gritty enough for his bottom 6 role.
Hiller, Ramo, Ortio -- awful year. Chicken or egg... the team started off poorly and the goalies never got their mojo back.

[Enoch Root]

The moment their young players start coming off their ELCs, the team will be hooped.

But I give them credit for turning cap space into assets.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The moment their young players start coming off their ELCs, the team will be hooped.

But I give them credit for turning cap space into assets.

This year (2016)

Connor Murphy 3.85 x 6
Rieder unsigned RFA

2017 -Datsuyk and Pronger off the books

Martinook
Duclair

2018

Domi
Domique

2019 - Bolland off books

Strome
Dvorak
Crouse
Merkley

2020

Deangelo
Chychrun
Keller
Fischer

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

They have added Goligoski and Schenn on defense moving Dahlbeck and Michalek to 7/8

They have added McGinn, Vrbata Ryan White, Dvorak and Strome as forwards replacing Vermette, Bodekker, Boyd Gordon, Chipchurra, Sekac and Tangauy.


It looks like they will be icing a significantly better team than the one that tied the Flames in the standings last year.

Unless it was totally the goalies fault last season for the Flames it could be argued that the Coyotes have made a bigger upgrade than the Flames and have done a better job filling the holes. ie their hopeful additions of Dvorak and Strome has a chance to work out a lot better than adding Shinkaruk/Pribyl/Vey/Chassion
.

Their adding Gologski and Schenn beats the Flames adding Jokipakka and getting Wideman back for a full year.

Maybe it is because I am a Flames homer but the Flames leaving: Hudler, Russell, Colbourne, Jones are more significant than what the Yotes lost.

My take on what the Flames have done from last year from another post:

Yotes have made some good moves, but I don't think they are significantly better than last year. Their improvement from the moves this summer are likely to manifest in a few years from now.

Their reason for improvement this year, if it happens, is the progression of Domi and Duclair, and a turnaround for Smith in goal. Could happen for Domi/Duclair, but I don't see it for Smith.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Yotes have made some good moves, but I don't think they are significantly better than last year. Their improvement from the moves this summer are likely to manifest in a few years from now.

Their reason for improvement this year, if it happens, is the progression of Domi and Duclair, and a turnaround for Smith in goal. Could happen for Domi/Duclair, but I don't see it for Smith.

Adding Dvorak and Strome would be sort of like adding 2 Bennett's last year.

Goligoski was #1 D in TOI on the 2nd overall team in the NHL....42-36 37 pts over the last 3 years +21 last season (never a minus player in his 9 year career). .. kills penalties.... makes the yotes top-4 OEL-Stone, Goligoski-Murphy in the top 10 in the league.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Adding Dvorak and Strome would be sort of like adding 2 Bennett's last year.

Goligoski was #1 D in TOI on the 2nd overall team in the NHL....42-36 37 pts over the last 3 years +21 last season (never a minus player in his 9 year career). .. kills penalties.... makes the yotes top-4 OEL-Stone, Goligoski-Murphy in the top 10 in the league.

Or sort of like adding 2 Baertschis from two years ago; they haven't even made the team yet.