[News] Jay Bouwmeester replaces Duncan Keith for Canada @ World Cup of Hockey

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Team Snub blue line:

Giordano / Subban
Brodie / Letang
Yandle / Shattenkirk
Klingberg

That's looking pretty damned good.

[Mike F]

Ken Hitchcock is a very good coach, highly respected, and a stickler for strong defense, and he has consistently given Bouwmeester the 2nd most even-strength and total time-on-ice per game for the Blues, and most shorthanded time-on-ice per game.

Babcock is the most highly respected coach in the game, and a stickler for structured play all over the ice, and has now had Bouwmeester on his team for the last 2 best-on-best Team Canadas.

The inclusion of Muzzin & Burns shows that this is not simply an old boys club, so maybe the reality is that knowledgeable hockey people think Bouwmeester is a very, very good defenseman.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Mike F

Ken Hitchcock is a very good coach, highly respected, and a stickler for strong defense, and he has consistently given Bouwmeester the 2nd most even-strength and total time-on-ice per game for the Blues, and most shorthanded time-on-ice per game.

Babcock is the most highly respected coach in the game, and a stickler for structured play all over the ice, and has now had Bouwmeester on his team for the last 2 best-on-best Team Canadas.

The inclusion of Muzzin & Burns shows that this is not simply an old boys club, so maybe the reality is that knowledgeable hockey people think Bouwmeester is a very, very good defenseman.

Knowlegable hockey people make stupid decisions sometimes.

Team USA left Phil Kessel, Justin Faulk and Kevin Shattenkirk off their team.

Inviting Jay Bouwmeester to a tournament in 2016 over Mark Giordano and TJ Brodie is a stupid decision.

[CroFlames]

Good. Don't need Gio or Brodie going and getting injured.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by kbvall

I'll travel to Canada(from Sweden) for the first time because of the World Cup. But what I'm really looking forward to is my first visit to Calgary. In the long run - who cares about the results in the WC except of Tortorella?


Skickat från min iPhone med Tapatalk

Goddam...I might have to make this my new signature.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Do we even know if Gio or Brodie were offered the spot and turned it down? I doubt that would be the case with Brodie (right or wrong) but wouldn't shock me if Gio wasn't interested.

Plus on the Brodie front, he does make a lot of unforced errors due to higher risk plays, especially against quality opposition which will be all of this tournament. While the upside certainly outweighs the downside on this when it comes to Brodie, Team Canada isn't short of solid puck moving D-men who can generate offensive with a little less risk. A "safer" player like Bow might actually be the better move given the makeup of that D.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Both right-handed shots. Having left-handed guys play the left side in a short tournament is a defensible coaching choice, so I'm going to have to disagree that they should be there in place of Bouwmeester...

... because they should be there in place of Weber.

Good point, didn't take which way they shoot into consideration. Agreed that Letang and Subban should be ahead of Weber too.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Jay Bouwmeester is a great defenseman. A lot of blind hatred here in my opinion.

That said, I do agree that Giordano, Brodie, Subban, and Letang should be there ahead of him.

I didn't see any blind hate in this thread at all. Nor did I see anyone argue that he isn't a great player,

The issue is: is he better than Giordano or Brodie? And the answer is: no he is not. Flame fans are in a pretty good position to assess those three players and I, for one, don't think it's even that close. Apparently a lot of Flames fans agree.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I loved the Canada Cup so don't assume it is an age thing. In fact the reason I don't like this tourney is because of my love for the old Canada Cups.

For me this thing jumped the shark when they created a team that was a mix of US and Canada.
I want to see best on best - by country.
Not best on best - sorta.

It feels closer to an all star game to me than a best on best international tournament.

Definitely agree on the U23 team and not a fan of that decision. But I'm also very intrigued to see how they stack up. I say give it a chance. Hopefully the gimmick team is a one and done but in any case I'll be watching.

The summit series wasn't technically best on best but it's remembered rather fondly to say the least.

[Alpheus]

Players can decline to go, right?

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by codynw

Knowlegable hockey people make stupid decisions sometimes.

....

Inviting Jay Bouwmeester to a tournament in 2016 over Mark Giordano and TJ Brodie is a stupid decision.

Well, the knowledgeable hockey people in charge of the last Olympics put together an incredibly dominant team (outscoring opponents 17-3 vs. Sweden's 17-9 GF/GA, for example), so I'd say they have a track record of not making stupid decisions.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

It's not a gimmick tournament. Maybe the NHL is doing a crappy job with all the gimmicks and the testing but if the players don't go to the Olympics, this is it. It's serious for Canada (Armstrong, Babcock and co..). Lose this tournament and it's a long 4 years.

I disagree. I think its a contrived, meaningless tournament designed for no other reason than to generate money for the NHL and the NHLPA. To compare it to the Olympics is silly. Olympic hockey will generate interest regardless of whether or not NHL players go. I honestly doubt coaches will be pining the loss of this tournament for four years.

[djsFlames]

Cheering for team NA. Not cheering for Canada's old boys country club.

Prefer a well rested Flames blue line anyhow.

[MarkGio]

There should be team Canada East and team West

[theinfinitejar]

Originally Posted by Mike F

Well, the knowledgeable hockey people in charge of the last Olympics put together an incredibly dominant team (outscoring opponents 17-3 vs. Sweden's 17-9 GF/GA, for example), so I'd say they have a track record of not making stupid decisions.

90% of this board could pick a Team Canada that dominates. You could do it with 50 names on a dartboard and you'd have a 70% chance of winning the tournament.

[FireGilbert]

Not too concerned about the Flames snubs but have no idea how anyone would pick JBo over PK.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Cheering for team NA. Not cheering for Canada's old boys country club.

8 players on the current roster weren't on the 2014 Olympic team - 35% turnover from a team that was extremely impressive in winning gold.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Mike F

Well, the knowledgeable hockey people in charge of the last Olympics put together an incredibly dominant team (outscoring opponents 17-3 vs. Sweden's 17-9 GF/GA, for example), so I'd say they have a track record of not making stupid decisions.

Canada has the luxury of being able to select from a pool of at least 40 or 50 players that would still leave them easily the most dominant team.

The fact that the team was dominant (to absolutely no one's surprise) does not in any way imply that every individual roster decision was the correct one.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Canada has the luxury of being able to select from a pool of at least 40 or 50 players that would still leave them easily the most dominant team.

The fact that the team was dominant (to absolutely no one's surprise) does not in any way imply that every individual roster decision was the correct one.

Canada doesn't win every Olympics or every Canada Cup. The fact that the 2014 team dominated tells me that was a well put together and well coached team. I kind of disagree that their performance was so totally expected. Watched the World Juniors lately?

Give Bouwmeester his due. He played very well on a dominant team.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Canada has the luxury of being able to select from a pool of at least 40 or 50 players that would still leave them easily the most dominant team.

The fact that the team was dominant (to absolutely no one's surprise) does not in any way imply that every individual roster decision was the correct one.

Tell that to the 2006 Olympic team.