Munich Mall shooting

[devo22]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

So this kid was not affiliated with ISIS at all, actually sounds like he wasn't very religious. Born and raised in Munich, sounds like this was a case similar to what happened in Norway years ago, could be some mental issues there. He was also researching rampages and mass shootings. This was what was on CNN anyway. When we hear of these things the first thing we think of is ISIS and immigrants and refugees but in this case that doesn't seem to be the issue at all.

yep, this one apparently wasn't political at all. There's a video where the guy is standing on a parking deck and having a heated argument with another person who's living at a house next to the parking lot. Tried to explain himself, said how he's been mobbed for years and that he's been in treatment for a mental health issue. Was a pretty short dialogue since the other guy kept insulting him for shooting people ("I was born here, I am German!" - "No, you're just an #######!").

I really don't get where stuff like the quotes in post 53 come from. And to be honest, nothing even remotely close to that has been reported over here. One victim was 45 while the others were between 14 and 20 years old, so it's possible the guy specifically targeted teenagers.

[Senator Clay Davis]

This sounds like a targeted attack, probably against some of the people who bullied him

The lone teenager who shot dead nine people and injured 27 others in Munich had researched school killing sprees and attempted to lure victims to the scene of his rampage with an offer of free food on social media, officials have said.

Police said the 18-year-old gunman, who opened fire at a crowded shopping centre and McDonald’s restaurant on Friday evening, had been raised in Munich and was still in full-time education.

They added that he had likely been in psychiatric care and there were indicators he had been treated for depression.

Robert Heimberger, a police investigator, said on Saturday it appeared the gunman had hacked a Facebook account and lured people to the shopping centre with an offer of free food.

The post, sent from a young woman’s account, urged people to come to McDonald’s at 4pm, saying: “I’ll give you something if you want, but not too expensive.”

“It appears it was prepared by the suspect and then sent out,” Heimberger said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nks?CMP=twt_gu

[PeteMoss]

Good job by everyone involved in jumping to conclusions (including the media and police in this).

[stampsx2]

Nevermind. Guess I'm guilty of accusing too.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Good job by everyone involved in jumping to conclusions (including the media and police in this).

Brown skinned man singing allah akbar while shooting kids in a macdonalds, ..how could we ever make that mistake

ISIS or not, whether he practiced it or not the guy was still brainwashed since youth in Islam and paradise

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by T@T

Brown skinned man singing allah akbar while shooting kids in a macdonalds, ..how could we ever make that mistake



ISIS or not, whether he practiced it or not the guy was still brainwashed since youth in Islam and paradise

Yeah no, that's dumb. You can't just say "well, despite the fact that no connection to Islamic extremism was found I still blame his connection to Islamic extremism"

Not every terrorist attack has to fuel your POV, sometimes they won't. This has absolutely nothing to do with Islam, as much as you wish it did.

[snootchiebootchies]

Based on statements from the few people who knew him, it sounds like overexposure to violent video games, years of being bullied, and mental health issues are more to blame than any vague link to Islam.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-one-day.html

[calgaryblood]

Do we even know if he was Muslim? Not all Iranians are Muslim and a lot practice atheism and Judaism. And his middle name is David so....

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by snootchiebootchies

Based on statements from the few people who knew him, it sounds like overexposure to violent video games, years of being bullied, and mental health issues are more to blame than any vague link to Islam.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-one-day.html

It probably has nothing to do with the first thing.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Do we even know if he was Muslim? Not all Iranians are Muslim and a lot practice atheism and Judaism. And his middle name is David so....

Most Iranian Muslims are Shia, they loathe ISIS and don't go in for suicide.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Do we even know if he was Muslim? Not all Iranians are Muslim and a lot practice atheism and Judaism. And his middle name is David so....

What part of screaming "allah akbar" while committing murder isn't crazy Islam?

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Most Iranian Muslims are Shia, they loathe ISIS and don't go in for suicide.

#####es hate Sunnis but they still practice crazy Islamic things like stoning adulterers,public hanging gays..etc.

I think he hoped to get away but got cornered and said f### it. yes he was crazy but facts are facts...he was still a crazy Muslim.

I say this just as I said Breivik was a crazy Muslim hater.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by T@T

What part of screaming "allah akbar" while committing murder isn't crazy Islam?

#####es hate Sunnis but they still practice crazy Islamic things like stoning adulterers,public hanging gays..etc.

I think he hoped to get away but got cornered and said f### it. yes he was crazy but facts are facts...he was still a crazy Muslim.

I say this just as I said Breivik was a crazy Muslim hater.

They don't do suicide though, thus far only one person seems to say he said Allah Akbar, the rest are saying he was shouting effing Turks

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

They don't do suicide though, thus far only one person seems to say he said Allah Akbar, the rest are saying he was shouting effing Turks

Yes they do, not sure where you're getting that from.

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

They don't do suicide though, thus far only one person seems to say he said Allah Akbar, the rest are saying he was shouting effing Turks

They don't do suicide until they see GSG9 closing in...

[T@T]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

They don't do suicide though, thus far only one person seems to say he said Allah Akbar, the rest are saying he was shouting effing Turks

Actually there was at least 3 witnesses saying he was screaming "Allah Akbar" inside the Macdonalds, the effing Turks thing was on a parking garage roof just before he ended himself. I would question whether he turned to Sunni extreme ideology just for effing the Turks(who are fighting ISIS with females)

I'm at a loss why people are trying so hard to turn this against anything other than what it is, another Islamic crap show

[calgaryblood]

The witnesses also said they saw three people carrying firearms and shooting at children....witnesses aren't always reliable.

Nothing has been linked to islamic terrorism and they've went through his computer and everything they could so far. I think I'll believe the police rather than some religious bigot who spews more hate than any religious person I've ever met.

[HarryH93]

Originally Posted by T@T

Actually there was at least 3 witnesses saying he was screaming "Allah Akbar" inside the Macdonalds, the effing Turks thing was on a parking garage roof just before he ended himself. I would question whether he turned to Sunni extreme ideology just for effing the Turks(who are fighting ISIS with females)

I'm at a loss why people are trying so hard to turn this against anything other than what it is, another Islamic crap show

You are so thick it is unbelievable. Jesus christ.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by HarryH93

You are so thick it is unbelievable. Jesus christ.

I completely agree. I don't think I am the only one who has lost complete respect for this poster after this thread. It's mind boggling how some people can be so thick...

Only reads what he wants to read and came up with his own wrong conclusioms, not sure how old this poster is but maybe someone needs to tell him that not everything he reads online is true.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I don't think I am the only one who has lost complete respect for this poster after this thread.

You probably are. Most of us got that exercise out of the way years ago.

[MBates]

Originally Posted by T@T

Actually there was at least 3 witnesses saying he was screaming "Allah Akbar" inside the Macdonalds, the effing Turks thing was on a parking garage roof just before he ended himself. I would question whether he turned to Sunni extreme ideology just for effing the Turks(who are fighting ISIS with females)

I'm at a loss why people are trying so hard to turn this against anything other than what it is, another Islamic crap show

Critical thought can be enlightening. Give it a try.

How hard is it for any person to yell the words "Allah Akbar"?

That should cause someone to investigate the possibility of Islamic extremism, for sure, but you deem it to be conclusive proof....even in the face of evidence to the contrary.

You know terrorist groups also claim responsibility for attacks they had nothing to do with right?

Even if we assume he was saying those words the entire time, how does that (in your view) prove he was an Islamic extremist?

I am genuinely interested to know your rationale.