Suicide Squad **Spoilers**

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by saillias

Really? I've seen a good portion of these lately but not all. I would say the Dark Knight trumps anything marvel has put out. I'm not a big superhero buff though. I find most of em shlock.

That's why I said "for the most part". All DC has to stand on is the three latest Batman movies as well as the original with Keaton and Nicholson. I can count several Marvel movies that have been good to very good from some Spiderman, Ironman, Captain America, Guardians of the Galaxy, X-Men, Ant Man, Thor, Avengers, etc. Heck even some of the more unheralded Marvel movies like the Punisher: War Zone is better than 90% of what DC has put out.

[Swarly]

Just got back from a screening, I'm going to put this all in spoilers. I'm not talking about any of the plot just an overall review, but if you want to go in blind and unbiased either way don't read.

Spoiler!

Unfortunately the reviews are pretty close to accurate. I would give it a bit higher than it currently has on rotten tomatoes (31%) but i'd put it in the 5.5/10 range. It was a bit of fun, some alright action but nothing blew me away, and most of the funny bits were shown in the trailers (I only watched the first two trailers months ago).

As expected the movie spent a lot of time on Harley backstory and current, with Will Smith taking the 2nd spot on screen. Some of the others are barely seen, others with almost no back story at all.

I never felt connected to any characters. It has some great scenes but they felt kind of smashed together and rushed with little flow, just trying to do too much and cram too many stories together.

This all coming from a guy who liked Batman V Superman and thought it was a good movie (not great, probably a 7/10 tho) so take that for what it's worth.

[Robo]

How can marvel take a comic like guardians of the galaxy and make it one of my favorite movies yet DC makes everything into crap argh I was excited about this movie but reading reviews it kinda sounds like it's a mess

[speede5]

I think becasue Marvel plays it safe. Their characters are mostly relatable people with a gift. They live in the same real world we do.

DC is over the top. The characters are outlandish, unbelievable and unrelateable. Everything is either really dark or really garrish and the villians are not just evil but sadistic.

It's like comparing teletoon to anime, boxing to UFC. etc. It's a flavour that not everyone can get into. It doesn't mean it's bad but it takes an appreciation of the artform.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

:/ Really?

Couldn't disagree more. GOTG is completely outlandish for its entire runtime. Ant-man? A guy who can get really small and communicate with ants? That's not outlandish? And who the heck relates to Thor, or even Iron Man? Lot of billionaire genius alcoholic womanizers going to the theatres these days?

Moreover, in terms of sadistic villains, there's absolutely no one more sadistic than Kilgrave, though I'm not sure if you want to count that given that it's a Netflix series. But outside of Nolan's series, the villains have been mostly cartoons. What the heck was Luthor's motivation in BvS?

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

:/ Really?

Couldn't disagree more. GOTG is completely outlandish for its entire runtime. Ant-man? A guy who can get really small and communicate with ants? That's not outlandish? And who the heck relates to Thor, or even Iron Man? Lot of billionaire genius alcoholic womanizers going to the theatres these days?

Moreover, in terms of sadistic villains, there's absolutely no one more sadistic than Kilgrave, though I'm not sure if you want to count that given that it's a Netflix series. But outside of Nolan's series, the villains have been mostly cartoons. What the heck was Luthor's motivation in BvS?

The characters are relatable he said. Not their super powers.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

The characters are relatable he said. Not their super powers.

What Marvel did with Captain America is what DC should have done with Superman. There is no one as campy in concept as Captain America (and they even played off it in the first movie with his show tour). When Captain America was first announced to have a cinematic portrayal, I'm pretty sure I rolled my eyes.

Yet somehow Marvel has turned his cinematic character into this amazing, deep, engaging character who even us non-Americans love (seriously Winter Soldier has got to be one of my favourite movies, period).

Superman is the ultimate boy scout, and should have been given similar treatment. Instead we have this...well I don't even know what we have. A piece of plywood. An all-worldly powerful piece of plywood.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

:/ Really?

Couldn't disagree more. GOTG is completely outlandish for its entire runtime. Ant-man? A guy who can get really small and communicate with ants? That's not outlandish? And who the heck relates to Thor, or even Iron Man? Lot of billionaire genius alcoholic womanizers going to the theatres these days?

Moreover, in terms of sadistic villains, there's absolutely no one more sadistic than Kilgrave, though I'm not sure if you want to count that given that it's a Netflix series. But outside of Nolan's series, the villains have been mostly cartoons. What the heck was Luthor's motivation in BvS?

Admittedly we're a small group but that doesnt mean you can discriminate against us.

[AcGold]

Superman was in response to the Dark Knight trilogy. Gritty realism was what made Bales Batman so riveting (in the beginning before Bane jumped the shark). They figured people want a more gritty dark Superman that seems real, but Superman is the definition of campy.

Dark Knight Returns did it perfect, Superman was godly in strength but over the top with his self absorbed ego. This was the best Superman ever on screen animated or real. The way he would put his foot up and pose with his stupid curly Q hair was classic and they nailed exactly how to establish a powerful yet comically arrogant oaf.

[speede5]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

:/ Really?

Couldn't disagree more. GOTG is completely outlandish for its entire runtime. Ant-man? A guy who can get really small and communicate with ants? That's not outlandish? And who the heck relates to Thor, or even Iron Man? Lot of billionaire genius alcoholic womanizers going to the theatres these days?

Moreover, in terms of sadistic villains, there's absolutely no one more sadistic than Kilgrave, though I'm not sure if you want to count that given that it's a Netflix series. But outside of Nolan's series, the villains have been mostly cartoons. What the heck was Luthor's motivation in BvS?

My opinion may be far from perfect, I'm just trying to summarize how I feel about the 2 companies in general. You can pretty much pick up any comic from the two companies without seeing the cover and know which group it came from within a couple pages.

The hero in GOTG was still an ordinary joe from earth in the beginning.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

Fair point! I noticed the 0 critic gave Air Force One a perfect score.

To be fair, "get off my plane," was a great line.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Locke

Admittedly we're a small group but that doesnt mean you can discriminate against us.

Well.. you do have helicopter experience, i've seen the commercial.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Well.. you do have helicopter experience, i've seen the commercial.

Ironically, against my wishes, I have never set foot in a helicopter.

Until the day comes that I do I shall denounce helicopters as godless killing machines that fall from the sky!

[LouCypher]

Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner

What Marvel did with Captain America is what DC should have done with Superman. There is no one as campy in concept as Captain America (and they even played off it in the first movie with his show tour). When Captain America was first announced to have a cinematic portrayal, I'm pretty sure I rolled my eyes.

Yet somehow Marvel has turned his cinematic character into this amazing, deep, engaging character who even us non-Americans love (seriously Winter Soldier has got to be one of my favourite movies, period).

Superman is the ultimate boy scout, and should have been given similar treatment. Instead we have this...well I don't even know what we have. A piece of plywood. An all-worldly powerful piece of plywood.

I totally agree with Captain America, I have never been a fan of him in the comics. Not the type of character I'm into but the way the movies have portrayed him have given a new life to the character and I would say some of my favorites of the Marvel movies have been the Captain America ones.

[AcGold]

Not surprising as Captain America has the best story. Weak nobody turned super powerful and his most powerful assets are his humility and character. Easy to write relatable material for. Now that they completely nuked Hulks human intricacies Cap is the most human of them all. He just wanted one dance...

[polak]

Its below 30% now. Ouch.

[Jbo]

In a year where Marvel has put out something as good as Civil War, DC and Warner Brothers should be downright embarrassed with the mess of a universe they have made. BvS, and now Suicide Squad, are getting crushed. I just hope Wonder Women can help salvage what they are trying to do.

How do you take Villans like Deadshot and the Joker, and somehow make the movie boring? Honestly, I wish that DC just took the video games: Arkhem Series for Batman and Injustice for Justice League and Superman and translated it.

[KTrain]

I might be the only one, but I thought Superman Returns was a great portrayal of Superman. The movie had its flaws (superson and kryptonite stuff) but overall I thought Routh did a good job bringing what Reeves did with the character and bringing it into the modern times.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by polak

Its below 30% now. Ouch.

Now at 28%... will it manage to sink below BvS? It might just!

... So has anyone actually seen it yet besides Swarly?

[Senator Clay Davis]

Brutal, if a little over the top review

http://news.nationalpost.com/arts/mo...ies-in-my-life