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View Poll Results: Best prospect from the following list?
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Bruce
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Carroll
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Culkin
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Dube
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0% |
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Falkovsky
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Fox
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0.86% |
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Hamilton
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0% |
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Harrison
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0% |
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Hathaway
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4 |
1.14% |
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Kanzig
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0.29% |
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Karnaukhov
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Klimchuk
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0.57% |
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Kulak
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1.43% |
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Lindstrom
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0% |
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Mangiapane
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40 |
11.43% |
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Mattson
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0% |
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McDonald
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0% |
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Morrison
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Ollas Mattsson
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0.86% |
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Parsons
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0.29% |
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Phillips
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0% |
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Poirier
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32 |
9.14% |
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Pollock
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0% |
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Pribyl
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2.00% |
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Rafikov
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0% |
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Rittich
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0% |
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Schneider
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0% |
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Shinkaruk
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66.86% |
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Smith
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Tuolola
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1.71% |
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Wotherspoon
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3.43% |
07-14-2016, 01:02 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
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We're now into the players that are essentially unknowns - my voting criteria is now simply players I find most intriguing.
In the last two years, Poirier has never impressed me at the NHL level. For a guy who's skating is supposedly his biggest asset, the scouts were right at the draft - it's really wonky. Apparently he's an agitator. I'll believe it when I see it.
Shinkaruk hasn't looked all that impactful in his time either - he scored a goal in Anaheim when it was 5-0 in a game where Johnny wasn't playing. He has another secondary assist. The Granlund trade is still excellent value, but I don't watch Shinkaruk and see an impact NHL player at this point.
Most intriguing guy in the system at this point would be E2.
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07-14-2016, 01:09 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Fox for me.
He isn't far off the other three main d-men.
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07-14-2016, 01:14 PM
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#63
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: At a garage sale
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Shinkaruk again. I just think he took his opportunity last year and ran with it. I can't believe the Nucks let this guy go!
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07-14-2016, 01:49 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Kulak made the team out of camp last season and still has good middle pairing upside, went with him.
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07-14-2016, 02:02 PM
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#65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
Fox for me.
He isn't far off the other three main d-men.
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He's so ridiculously far out though. 3 years minimum until he goes pro I think then probably 1 year in the minors before he's a regular, assuming everything goes well.
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07-14-2016, 02:25 PM
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#66
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Voted Poirier this round. I think he had an off-year last year and he should bounce back in 2016-17. Shinkaruk was tempting as well.
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07-14-2016, 02:33 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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Yeah Kulak should be getting more love IMO. It was a toss up for me between him and Wotherspoon
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07-14-2016, 02:37 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
He's so ridiculously far out though. 3 years minimum until he goes pro I think then probably 1 year in the minors before he's a regular, assuming everything goes well.
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I agree. I rank players by their upside then by distance from the NHL. His upside is right there with the other three D-men. He should be #4 of the group due to him being at least 2 years further away than any of the others.
I would have voted for Shinkaruk but I knew he would be the runaway winner so I went for my second choice.
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07-14-2016, 03:35 PM
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First Line Centre
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I voted for Shinkaruk, but since we're comparing him to Poirer, I root for Poirer more because of his toolbox.
But apples to apples Shinkaruk should be ranked higher, due to Poirers off year and the way he's looked at the NHL. For that matter Shinkaruk should be ranked higher than he already is
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07-14-2016, 03:40 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Catching up on guesses for the players that already won the polls:
Hickey: First NHL Game - 2017/2018 Season. Regular NHLer - 2018/2019 Season.
Rasmus Andersson: First NHL Game - 2017/2018 Season. Regular NHLer - 2018/2019 Season.
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07-14-2016, 03:51 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Holland
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Won't we be losing a Kylington, Andersson or Hickey when the 2nd expansion draft comes??
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07-14-2016, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by FiveSeven
Won't we be losing a Kylington, Andersson or Hickey when the 2nd expansion draft comes??
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If it came to it, I'm sure they'd go 4D 4F 1G. Brandon Hickey won't be a 2nd year pro for three years, and I'm almost positive we wouldn't expose Kylington at this point. Andersson isn't guaranteed to go to the AHL either, so we're looking at another two years for him.
Gio
Brodie
Dougie
Kylington
Johnny
Sean
Sam
Matt
Gillies/Elliott
Wouldn't lose sleep at this stage though. There's no guarantee there'll even be another round of expansion - I'm still convinced QC is getting a relocation.
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07-14-2016, 04:09 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Another surprised by the lack of attention for Kulak.
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07-14-2016, 04:13 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
There's no guarantee there'll even be another round of expansion - I'm still convinced QC is getting a relocation.
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31 teams is just such an ugly number for a professional sports league, though. It's a prime number, so you can't split it into divisions with even numbers of teams.
Really, the only option now would be for the NHL to expand again. Unless a team folds, but I don't see that happening.
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07-14-2016, 04:40 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
31 teams is just such an ugly number for a professional sports league, though. It's a prime number, so you can't split it into divisions with even numbers of teams.
Really, the only option now would be for the NHL to expand again. Unless a team folds, but I don't see that happening.
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Meh. NHL has already been playing with uneven numbers between the two divisions. MLB also had an uneven number of teams amongst divisions for a few years. Probably something that will eventually be rectified but not necessarily right away.
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07-14-2016, 05:02 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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Pretty clear there is a ledge here at Shinkaruk finalizing the 3rd tier A- prospects.
Everyone else far below in percentage votes.
Do we call the 4th tier B+ prospects?
Tkachuk A+
Gillies Jankowski A
Kylington Hickey Andersson Shinkaruk A-
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07-14-2016, 05:29 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The C-spot
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018
Pretty clear there is a ledge here at Shinkaruk finalizing the 3rd tier A- prospects.
Everyone else far below in percentage votes.
Do we call the 4th tier B+ prospects?
Tkachuk A+
Gillies Jankowski A
Kylington Hickey Andersson Shinkaruk A-
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I'd lower everyone by a third of a letter grade (unless it's relative to our prospect pool). There is a tier of prospect above Tkachuk that we don't have (and neither do most).
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07-14-2016, 05:50 PM
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#78
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by FiveSeven
Won't we be losing a Kylington, Andersson or Hickey when the 2nd expansion draft comes??
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Every team will lose a good player or prospect, there's no way around it really unless your depth is horrible. There will be teams that lose better players/prospects too.
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07-14-2016, 06:11 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018
Pretty clear there is a ledge here at Shinkaruk finalizing the 3rd tier A- prospects.
Everyone else far below in percentage votes.
Do we call the 4th tier B+ prospects?
Tkachuk A+
Gillies Jankowski A
Kylington Hickey Andersson Shinkaruk A-
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If I were to use the NHL game rankings
Tkachuk -- 4.5 Green Stars
Gillies, Jankowski -- 4.5 Yellow Stars
Kylington, Hickey, Andersson, Shinkaruk -- 4 Yellow Stars
Poirer, Mangiapane, McDonald, Kulak -- 4 Red Stars
Last edited by MarkGio; 07-14-2016 at 06:15 PM.
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07-14-2016, 06:11 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Five-hole
I'd lower everyone by a third of a letter grade (unless it's relative to our prospect pool). There is a tier of prospect above Tkachuk that we don't have (and neither do most).
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Sounds reasonable to drop everything down a third of a grade. What would be the equivalent of an A+ prospect?
Tkachuk is close to A+ but more of an A.
A+ should be reserved for a Matthews, Laine type of prospect?
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