[News] With the 54th OA pick Flames select G Tyler Parsons

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

There is no board.

I dont think it is about "there is no board" as much as it is, the Flames management have their own board. They seen the player they liked at that pick, they picked him.

Anyone who doesnt like the pick, too bad and what the hell do you know? You think you know more than Todd and Brad and Craig? Well you dont, so be quiet and enjoy the ride.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by GGG

There is a board.

Even if you ranked Gaudreau has the best player in his draft class you wouldn't draft him number one because he'd be available in the 2nd or 3rd round for sure.

So when people say go off board they are actually saying would have been available with a later pick. Or worth risking he would have been available with a later pick.

And when Gaudreau was drafted Boston were banging their hands on the table upset that they missed out on him. If you want the player you have to get him before he's gone.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Conroy4Mayor

To go off the board for one... yup.

What board might that be?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GGG

There is a board.

Even if you ranked Gaudreau has the best player in his draft class you wouldn't draft him number one because he'd be available in the 2nd or 3rd round for sure.

So when people say go off board they are actually saying would have been available with a later pick. Or worth risking he would have been available with a later pick.

Where is it?

Can I see it?

[dammage79]

You couldn't dimiss Parssons effort in the memorial cup. He was jst as elite as the rest of that stacked squad. He made some epic saves. I'm pleased with this pick.

[PeteMoss]

Oh for the love of god. The there's a board vs there's no board debate is the worst thing in the history of CP.

[sureLoss]

Button says they had Parsons going early in the 2nd round. They were going to take him at 35.

[GreenLantern2814]

Here are the presumptive starters for all 30 teams going into next year

Anaheim - John Gibson - 2nd round, 39th overall
Arizona - Mike Smith - 5th round, 161st overall
Boston - Tuukka Rask - 1st round, 21st overall
Buffalo - Robin Lehner - 2nd round, 46th overall
Calgary - Brian Elliott - 9th round, 291st overall
Carolina - Cam Ward - 1st round, 25th overall
Chicago - Corey Crawford - 2nd round, 52nd overall
Colorado - Semyon Varlamov - 1st round, 23rd overall
Columbus - Sergei Bobrovsky - Undrafted
Dallas - N/A
Detroit - Petr Mrazek - 5th round, 141st overall
Edmonton - Cam Talbot - Undrafted
Florida - Roberto Luongo - 1st round, 4th overall
Los Angeles - Jonathan Quick - 3rd round, 72nd overall
Minnesota - Devan Dubnyk - 1st round, 14th overall
Montreal - Carey Price - 1st round, 6th overall
Nashville - Pekka Rinne - 8th round, 258th overall
New Jersey - Corey Schneider - 1st round, 26th overall
New York Islanders - Thomas Greiss - 3rd round, 94th overall
New York Rangers - Henrik Lundqvist - 7th round, 205th overall
Philadelphia - Michal Neuvirth - 2nd round, 34th overall
Pittsburgh - Matt Murray - 3rd round, 83rd overall
Ottawa - Craig Anderson - 3rd round, 77th overall in 1999, 3rd round 73rd overall in 2001
San Jose - Martin Jones - Undrafted
St Louis - Jake Allen - 2nd round, 34th overall
Tampa Bay - Ben Bishop - 3rd round, 85th overall
Toronto - Frederik Andersen - 7th round 187th overall in 2010, 3rd round, 87th overall in 2012
Vancouver - Ryan Miller LOL - 5th round, 138th overall
Washington - Braden Holtby - 4th round, 93rd overall
Winnipeg - Ondrej Pavelec - 2nd round, 41st overall

Who cares where this kid was ranked. Who cares that we took Mason MacDonald over Thatcher Demko. Ben Bishop, who half the board was falling over backwards to hand $49 million dollars yesterday, has been traded twice for less than nothing back. The GMs don't have any idea how these guys are going to turn out, so clearly we don't stand a hope in Hell of handicapping them before we see them play against NHL competition.

Good luck, Tyler - you're going to need it.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Oh for the love of god. The there's a board vs there's no board debate is the worst thing in the history of CP.

There is no debate.

[Hockey-and_stuff]

There is no board. Only Zuul.

[FlameZilla]

I like it. He and Tkachuk come from a team that just ate the entire CHL for breakfast. Tkachuk said in his interview on NBC that he was exciting to bring that culture of winning to the Calgary Flames.

This guy was dominant in the Memorial Cup. He's a great puck-handler, and I'm pretty excited to have another great goalie prospect in the system.

[SeanCharles]

It's funny cause it's reminiscent of the 2014 draft, albeit McDonald was the first goalie taken in '14, in which Treliving started a string of goalie picks.

In 2014 he picked McDonald with pick 34 and after that goalies were picked at 36, 37, 39 and a total of 5 goalies were drafted in the 2nd round with the first pick of the 3rd round being a goalie as well.

Fast forward to the 2016 draft and Treliving picks Parsons at 54, after PHI made the first selection in net at 48, followed by goalie picks at 55, 59 and once again the first pick in the 3rd round was a goalie once again.

With Button saying they would have picked their goalie at 35, if they kept it, makes you wonder if it might have caused the same effect at the top of the 2nd round as 2014? Both were considered top heavy with the 2nd round being murky..

I don't think we should judge yet cause I think in both cases the Flames feel like they walked away with the goalie they wanted most. We just need to trust they know what they are doing because it looks like they want to develop a franchise goalie and will keep picking the goalies they have atop their lists every couple years in order to do it.

[StanTheMan]

Originally Posted by mikephoen

It's something like 25% chance for position players taken in the 2nd round to play 300 games in the NHL. The goalie odds are way lower, somewhere under 10%. And if you look at the list I provided, even the ones that made it aren't very exciting.

Hopefully this guy is the 1 in 10 long shot.

Honestly, I tend to agree with you but look at Jon Gillies. One of our top prospects who was taken in the mid third and who is often called the Flames "goalie of the future". They drafted him and he looks great so far and would also likely hold significant weight if the Flames wanted to trade him (which I would disagree with).

Macdonald is decent but has a long way to go IMO. Schneider looks like a great low cost acquisition. I really like Elliott as well. My point being that in my eyes, the Flames goalie scouts have been doing very well. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with this pick.

[3rd Degree]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

There is no debate.

There is no spoon.

[StanTheMan]

Originally Posted by Cantrader

I am not sold that gillies is the future as he is always injured

What? As far as I know he has only really had the current injury that needed surgery..

[Stay Golden]

Is it written in some Flames handbook at the draft the Flames must draft a Goalie in the second round. I am sure he is good winning the memorial with a stud team in front of him.
But come on a RW was needed. Oh well trust the process that is what I will convince myself.
At least they selected Dube 2 spots later.
I thought for sure they were going to snap up Taylor Raddysh and his 6'2 202lbs at RW 24g 73pts for Erie instead of a Goalie. He was rated by Central at 36. Would have been a steal. Spilled milk now lol
http://thehockeywriters.com/taylor-r...spect-profile/

[zukes]

As with Tkachuk, I've seen a lot of Parsons. Junior age goalies are tough to project, but having seen him so much this year, I can tell you there were night where he completely bailed a tired or just off Knights team out. Like was said earlier, he was the starter last year, and that is very rare for the Knights to give the reins to a young goalie.

[GreenLantern2814]

I like that he wears #1. Looks very athletic. Some real nice YouTube clips.

[Major Happy]

Originally Posted by StanTheMan

What? As far as I know he has only really had the current injury that needed surgery..

Yea, no idea what that user is talking about.

Gillies played 109 of his teams 118 games while in College, some of those games were missed because of the World Juniors also.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Is it written in some Flames handbook at the draft the Flames must draft a Goalie in the second round. I am sure he is good winning the memorial with a stud team in front of him.
But come on a RW was needed. Oh well trust the process that is what I will convince myself.
At least they selected Dube 2 spots later.
I thought for sure they were going to snap up Taylor Raddysh and his 6'2 202lbs at RW 24g 73pts for Erie instead of a Goalie. He was rated by Central at 36. Would have been a steal. Spilled milk now lol
http://thehockeywriters.com/taylor-r...spect-profile/

The Flames did a good thing drafting a goalie again. Until they get a Kipper, Vernon, Quick, Rask, Roy or other elite starter, they should continue to pick one in the top 90 every year.

Statistically you're more likely to hit with a goalie picked from 33-70 than a forward or defenseman. (Hit being 50 games played for a G vs 100 for a forward)

Getting someone that won a championship is a good idea. Winning goalies like Gillies and now Parsons at least have the experience of going all the way. Whether they translate that to the NHL or not, remains to be seen.