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Originally Posted by timbit
Do you really base your opinions on toughness , according to hits and pim stats.
Do you believe that Patrice Bergeron is one of the toughest players in the NHL.
Many hockey people believe he is. They substantiate their opinion on how many loose puck races and puck battles he wins. He gets to pucks first and gains possession...most times being the hittee....not the hitter. He is not chasing the game and/ or the opposition...he is very very good at creating and maintaining team puck possession. He takes a lot of punishment...to the point that he played with a punctured lung and broken ribs in the Stanley Cup playoffs and was a huge player in the Bruins winning the cup.
In his 12 seasons, he has averaged roughly 30 pims per season and half a hit per game.
Does that make him soft?
Even the most casual hockey observer knows the answer to that question.
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If you are just going to make things up and use them as facts then I guess you win this argument.
This year he had 1.0 hits/game He never has had a season with less than .6 hits/game...
As for the 30 PIM that is a lot of PIM for a guy who does not fight.... over the last 3 years he has 49, 44,43 PIM
It is extremely hard to battle for pucks in the corners and not take an occasional penalty.
Yep Bergeron is a tough player and his hits and PIM bears that out. No lady byng votes for him just based on PIM and hits.
Your punctured lung story has no bearing on if player plays a soft game. A lady byng nominee is still a soft player even if he plays injured.
Mason Raymond came back after a compressed vertebrae career threatening injury showing he is a strong individual even though he plays a soft hockey game.
Prior to his big career-threatening injury he had played most of a season with a broken thumb.