03-31-2016, 11:22 AM
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#61
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
So were fans singing RSN's praise last season? I recall the same complaints.
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Nope Joe Colborne's dad made a deal with SN (because he's rich) to make SN show the games in SD until the Flames are good again.
And Murray Edwards while he was fleeing to London made an arrangement with SN's camera guys not to show the entire play or any interesting scrums because he wanted to screw the fans and taxpayers one last time.
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03-31-2016, 11:45 AM
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#62
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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There's an easy solution: watch the opponent's broadcasts instead. I remember when I had CI and in the States it was rare that you'd get the Flames broadcast for a game. 9/10th of the time it was Fox Sports, NESN, Altitude, CSN, or something else. GC now lets you pick which feed you want, so pick away. Although I guess you're stuck when the Flames are playing a Canadian team...
I remember in the heyday of satellite television that on CI I would tune into the St. Louis Blues broadcasts pretty regularly because they had the satellite feed. So when they would cut to commercial you'd remain with the broadcasters to hear all their off-the-cuff comments that usually weren't safe for air. The really entertaining part was they had a game going with the cameramen to find the most attractive women in the crowd, with obligatory extreme zooms. I'm sure if they knew CI viewers on DirecTV were watching they'd clean up their act, but apparently no one got the memo.
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03-31-2016, 12:06 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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the difference in quality between a TSN Jets broadcast and a Sportsnet Flames broadcast is jarring. Night and Day. SNet sucks.
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03-31-2016, 12:09 PM
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#64
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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This thread is crazy, the fact we get to see the entire season of Flames games is amazing.
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03-31-2016, 12:13 PM
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#65
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Originally Posted by Yoho
This thread is crazy, the fact we get to see the entire season of Flames games is amazing.
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Why is it amazing? Do you think your $80 cable bill is charity? Sure it was amazing the first year after not getting every game but how long can "we never used to get every game" be an excuse for crappy broadcasts?
We pay good money to watch hockey because frankly if it wasn't for hockey I would have canceled cable a long time ago.
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03-31-2016, 12:13 PM
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#66
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
This thread is crazy, the fact we get to see the entire season of Flames games is amazing.
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No, it isn't. It's 2016, not the 80s. Don't have such low expectations.
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03-31-2016, 12:14 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
This thread is crazy, the fact we get to see the entire season of Flames games is amazing.
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amazing for 1995. Times have changed, regional sports rules the cable landscape. We shouldn't just be thankful we have the games.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
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03-31-2016, 12:14 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
This thread is crazy, the fact we get to see the entire season of Flames games is amazing.
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I'm great with that as well, but when the product would be easily made better by a few simple changes it's very frustrating.
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03-31-2016, 12:15 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
This thread is crazy, the fact we get to see the entire season of Flames games is amazing.
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Hey don't make fun of my Dodge Dart. The fact we get power steering/windows in these cars is amazing.
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03-31-2016, 12:22 PM
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#70
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In the Sin Bin
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it wasn't that long ago we were paying $10/game to hear Rob Kerr do PBP...
edit just check it was $15.95 for HD games! and this was only 5 years ago
Last edited by dino7c; 03-31-2016 at 12:24 PM.
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03-31-2016, 12:45 PM
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#71
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Meh, I watch the hockey game not the broadcast. PVR.
Commercial. 4 clicks on the 30second advance.
Icing/Offside. 1 click on 30sec & 1 click on 7sec back.
Intermission. 36 clicks on the 30sec with a quick pause to check out Leah Hextall.
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Quoted for truth.
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03-31-2016, 01:14 PM
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#72
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Burmis Tree
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The title is a bit melodramatic. Sportnet has done nothing to the on-ice product...
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03-31-2016, 01:20 PM
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#73
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
Hockey coverage has never been better for the average fan, sure there are some personalities that you don't like but with a basic cable package you can watch your favourite team 82 times a year. If your favourite team is out of market you can sign up and pay online and watch them 82 times a year. Is it perfect, no. There are some hosts who are annoying and the sound is off by a bit but seriously, is there nothing else to be concerned about? Sportsnet has ruined hockey? No, having an noncompetitive home market and a saturation of the market has done a lot more to ruin hockey.
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Sorry, but this doesn't excuse the sound issues and the horrible HD.
It's 2016, and there is ZERO excuse for those things being that terrible at this level.
Saying they've "ruined hockey" is overkill, but stating they have embarrassing broadcast quality for a product that big isn't in the slightest.
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03-31-2016, 01:31 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
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A few screenshots for comparison.
These are taken from NHL.tv, 1080p - So not compressed by Shaw or Telus.
Bad color temp, tone, brightness
Whitewashed, blurry, dark
TSN:
Might go do the same for NBC later, but even these are pretty obvious differences.
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03-31-2016, 01:45 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GoJetsGo
Sorry, but this doesn't excuse the sound issues and the horrible HD.
It's 2016, and there is ZERO excuse for those things being that terrible at this level.
Saying they've "ruined hockey" is overkill, but stating they have embarrassing broadcast quality for a product that big isn't in the slightest.
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In fairness to MMM, the production quality of the high def and sound on Vancouver games is substantially better than on Flames games.
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03-31-2016, 01:50 PM
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#76
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I am not complaining one bit. Growing up as a Flames fan in SW Ontario was brutal back in the 80's because you rarely got to see the team play. Hell, I used to tune into a Detroit radio station on my radio when the Flames were playing the Wings and that was exciting back then, to even hear the game. Before CI it was listening to games online in the early days of the internet and that was amazing. During the beginning of the alt.flames emailing group or whatever it was called. Then CI came out and I was set. Not only could I watch the Flames play every game but I watched a ridiculous amount of other games that didn't mean crap to me. Is Sportsnet coverage perfect? Nope. Do I care? Nope. I get to see the Flames play every game, all I have to do is remember the struggles when I was younger to get any Flames news at all, let alone watch them play and I count myself lucky.
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This is 80's style, publicly funded crown corporation type thinking.
Just because it's available to the masses shouldn't excuse the poor production quality we're seeing
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03-31-2016, 01:54 PM
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#77
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Calgary
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Do you guys love it as much as I do when the broadcast team gets "upgraded" to Garry Galley and Dave Randorf? Always seems so backwards that national games get what is, in my opinion, a significantly less charismatic, interesting, and knowledgeable duo.
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03-31-2016, 02:00 PM
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#78
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redlan
The title is a bit melodramatic. Sportnet has done nothing to the on-ice product...
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I don't mean on ice and you know that.
Hockey used to have a certain vibe and culture and I just don't feel the same way now that SN has taken over. Everything seems so boring and not interesting.
And I disagree watching games on Game Center will solve the problems. Not everyone has Game Center and the fun thing about sports is talking to friends/workmates about the game last night whether it be a great game between the Flyers and the Caps or another game. SN makes even a big rivalry game so boring. Hockey has no culture now.
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03-31-2016, 02:13 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
In fairness to MMM, the production quality of the high def and sound on Vancouver games is substantially better than on Flames games.
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In fairness, it is a game that I am able to watch in HD, have we become so spoiled that these "issues" are impacting your enjoyment of the game? Seems like more whining about trivialities that legitimate concerns.
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03-31-2016, 02:23 PM
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#80
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard
In fairness, it is a game that I am able to watch in HD, have we become so spoiled that these "issues" are impacting your enjoyment of the game? Seems like more whining about trivialities that legitimate concerns.
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Have we gotten used to a new standard? Yes, we have, and I wouldn't call that spoiled. High definition isn't exactly the new norm any more, it's the standard.
Viewers in the 80s wouldn't accept upscale black and white, we shouldn't accept substandard HD.
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