03-28-2016, 08:49 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Play with Josi/Weber/Ellis/RyJo/Forsberg/Ribiero/Neal VS Play for the Toronto Maple Leafs...
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Play with Josi/Weber/Ellis/RyJo/Forsberg/Ribiero/Neal VS Play for the last place Toronto Maple Leafs...
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Oh. Leafs it is.
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03-28-2016, 08:50 PM
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#62
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I know nothing about this player at all other than the fact that Nashville was counting on him being a piece in the playoffs.
As such, if we don't sign him, I will treat it as an unmitigated disaster and a signal that our rebuild has failed.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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03-28-2016, 08:51 PM
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Seen on twitter a few times tonight that the Bruins may be the team he ends up on. Some connections there apparently.
Still, I agree Nashville seems like a perfect spot for him. Not sure it's the smartest move for him.
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03-28-2016, 08:53 PM
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#64
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by nik-
I know nothing about this player at all other than the fact that Nashville was counting on him being a piece in the playoffs.
As such, if we don't sign him, I will treat it as an unmitigated disaster and a signal that our rebuild has failed.
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Well you could make the stretch theory that if Predators knew he wouldn't sign at the deadline, then they would have acquired a Flames player instead.
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03-28-2016, 08:56 PM
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#65
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Originally Posted by MarkGio
Well you could make the stretch theory that if Predators knew he wouldn't sign at the deadline, then they would have acquired a Flames player instead.
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What other potential top 6 could we have traded though? We had already moved Jones and Hudler.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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03-28-2016, 08:58 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by nik-
What other potential top 6 could we have traded though? We had already moved Jones and Hudler.
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Maybe they make a better offer than the Panthers for Hudler.
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03-28-2016, 09:01 PM
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Maybe!
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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03-28-2016, 09:14 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by killer_carlson
you'd almost think his agent has been tipped off to what he'll get when he goes UFA...
it would not surprise me if there are whispers or charges of tampering in the upcoming days.
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That's the thing. It's a standard Entry-Level Contract.
Assuming the Preds offered him the maximum amounts for salary and bonuses (which they almost certainly did), no one can offer him more money. If they offered him a top-6 spot on a playoff-bound team, no one can realistically offer him a better role either.
Also, if he signs now, he'll be up for renewal in a year, and if he's an established NHLer at that point, he'll be making a lot more than the rookie max.
For a guy who went to Harvard, he doesn't seem to be making the smart decision.
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03-28-2016, 09:15 PM
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#69
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Yeah this stuff sucks. As fans - it creates unneeded anxiety (see Jankowski thread) because the threat of a player doing this is very real.
Change the damn rule. This is no fun for anyone.
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03-28-2016, 09:17 PM
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#70
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Yeah this stuff sucks. As fans - it creates unneeded anxiety (see Jankowski thread) because the threat of a player doing this is very real.
Change the damn rule. This is no fun for anyone.
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Fun for the NCAA players tho. Not fun for Schultz anymore. What a horrible career decision, the Ducks aren't a bad team to play for either...
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Originally Posted by Hockey Fan #751
The Oilers won't finish 14th in the West forever.
Eventually a couple of expansion teams will be added which will nestle the Oilers into 16th.
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03-28-2016, 09:34 PM
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Help, save, whatever.
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
Yeah this stuff sucks. As fans - it creates unneeded anxiety (see Jankowski thread) because the threat of a player doing this is very real.
Change the damn rule. This is no fun for anyone.
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It's fun for whatever team signs him.
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03-28-2016, 09:36 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by savemedrzaius
It's fun for whatever team signs him.
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Yeah, for a team like the leafs especially. Since their own drafting is so inept.
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03-28-2016, 09:50 PM
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#73
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Help, save, whatever.
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Originally Posted by calgaryfan1988
yeah, for a team like the leafs especially. Since their own drafting is so inept.
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03-28-2016, 10:08 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Nothing stops a junior player from doing the same thing is there? They could not sign after two years and re-enter the draft and then not sign after another two years and become an UFA. Or am I mistaken?
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03-28-2016, 10:21 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by savemedrzaius
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Oh sorry to disappoint you, you probably believe the media hype. Other than Nylander they have jack ####.
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03-28-2016, 10:22 PM
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#76
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Help, save, whatever.
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Oh sorry to disappoint you, you probably believe the media hype. Other than Nylander they have jack ####.
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You are a very angry person, aren't you?
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03-28-2016, 10:25 PM
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Help, save, whatever.
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Polie guaranteed a top-6 spot to him? Are Nashville's forward group that weak? Very rarely does a playoff bound team or at least a team in the playoff hunt guarantee a top-6 role to an NCAA player.
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03-28-2016, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by savemedrzaius
You are a very angry person, aren't you?
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Not at all, your comments are just very transparent and selfish with the Vesey to Toronto rumours.
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03-28-2016, 10:34 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by atb
Not control, but NCAA players still attend development camps. Also I am sure there is a ton of information they provide to player related to nutrition and training, plus the time waiting for the player to develop to the point of being NHL ready. While receiving a compensation pick for losing the player is nice, it basically sets the team back 4 years in development of a prospect.
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They have to pay their own way to development camps or they lose their scholarships.
I'm sure a combined 4 weeks of hockey school is valuable, but let's not act like the Flames have been molding this kid since day 1. Nate Leaman has.
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03-28-2016, 10:41 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Fire
Nothing stops a junior player from doing the same thing is there? They could not sign after two years and re-enter the draft and then not sign after another two years and become an UFA. Or am I mistaken?
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That is correct. The big difference is that there isn't really anywhere for a junior player to play at a high level beyond the age of 20. He could go to Europe for a year or two, but otherwise, his options are limited.
Also, once the first two years are up, the drafting team is going to try to move him to a team he's willing to sign with (like the Flames did with Erixon), so that they can get some return for the lost draft pick.
With the College kids, they can string a team along and promise to sign after their four years are up, but there's nothing the team can do to ensure it because the player loses his NCAA eligibility if he signs a contract.
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