Rob Ford has passed

[T@T]

Who cares if he smoked crack and acted "nuts" at times, he never hurt anyone, seemed to always make time for people even if it seemed trivial to most and was also was one of Toronto's most popular mayors EVER!

I shake my head on how people can be so simple minded and cold when someone of fame dies.

P.S. years ago Calgary had a mayor just about as crazy as Ford but because of the lack of media and the internet he eventually became Premier!

[savemedrzaius]

Originally Posted by T@T

Who cares if he smoked crack and acted "nuts" at times, he never hurt anyone, seemed to always make time for people even if it seemed trivial to most and was also was one of Toronto's most popular mayors EVER!

I shake my head on how people can be so simple minded and cold when someone of fame dies.

P.S. years ago Calgary had a mayor just about as crazy as Ford but because of the lack of media and the internet he eventually became Premier!

I'm sure his two children and wife loved it. It was a real ball they would say.

I don't hold anything against him for having an addiction. It is how he handled it that is the problem.

[Flames89]

The guy was a drunk, a liar, a misogynist, and an #######. But he was our #######.
RIP

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

And the knives come out. It isn't that he was a likable figure, a good person, a smart man or an even half decent politician. Wait... where was I going with this... oh right. It is still unfortunate when anyone dies of a horrible disease such as cancer, no matter how much they are disliked. He had his faults, most of which were forgivable, some of which were not - but in death, putting some of those aside to remember that he still was someone's father, wife, son and brother. Those people don't need to have their noses rubbed in their loved one's faults during a trying time seems to be something of basic decency and compassion. If you have nothing good or beneficial to say, don't say anything.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by pylon

He was a bit of an a-hole, but c'mon man. Good riddance? He was a flawed and troubled man, no doubt, but he was also an addict. And addicts do a lot of things that make no sense.

I've done some pretty crappy things in my life, I certainly hope that people would be able to overlook my flaws, and at least appreciate some of the good things I've done on this planet. Instead of saying "Good riddance."

Pretty cold man.

Nope. Not apologizing. He was a misogynist homophobe. Bad people die too.

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hal...ess_youth.html

[FlamesAddiction]

He was a victim of affluenza. He got away with stuff his whole life due to his family's status and connections, so as adult he was flawed. I don't think that part should be celebrated the way it is.

[Hockey_Ninja]

He will always be a legend for this alone

NSFW!

[pylon]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Nope. Not apologizing. He was a misogynist homophobe. Bad people die too.

http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hal...ess_youth.html

Never asked you to apologize. Just stated your comments come across as cold.

The exact same things could be said of my grandmother when she died as well. But I didn't stand at the pulpit, say 'good riddance' then whip out my wang and piss on her grave at the service.

The guy had many flaws. And many people's flaws were conditioned into them growing up. It's not like he did zero good either. He was definitely a guy that cared, and was passionate for his work, all things aside.

[Senator Clay Davis]

The infamous crack smoking tape has been published. And the article gets it right, it really makes you feel sorry for him more than anything

http://news.nationalpost.com/toronto...thy-than-scorn

[Huntingwhale]

That video is sad more then anything. I dabbled in that stuff a couple times when I was younger and that incoherent babbling, the jittery eyes, the stupid glass pipe. Man that stuff makes me gag just remembering what it was like.

Kind of disappointed that the video got released after the man has passed. Clearly he had addiction issues. His family is probably still hurting over his death. Now the video finally gets released and they get to relive all that crap all over again. For what reason? To show a clip of something everyone already knows?

Good article though and spot on analysis.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You earn the respect you're given. Rob Ford earned his, and I don't believe death earns him a single ounce more. If Ford was a crack smoking racist, it's no less appropriate to say it today than it was to say it a year ago.

And yet he got much of his support from Toronto's non-white suburban poor.

Rob Ford the Two Torontos

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

That video is sad more then anything. I dabbled in that stuff a couple times when I was younger and that incoherent babbling, the jittery eyes, the stupid glass pipe. Man that stuff makes me gag just remembering what it was like.

Kind of disappointed that the video got released after the man has passed. Clearly he had addiction issues. His family is probably still hurting over his death. Now the video finally gets released and they get to relive all that crap all over again. For what reason? To show a clip of something everyone already knows?

Good article though and spot on analysis.

I think it was released as evidence at a trial, and then released to the public as often happens. It wasn't to hurt the family, although I am sure it's nothing they haven't seen before.

The video doesn't really make me sad. There was a video of Whitney Houston smoking crack and acting weird, and I don't recall a lot of sympathy especially from the media. I think there was one of Miley Cyrus doing something similar. It's just people misbehaving. Ford was smoking crack because he liked to get high and was allowed to act with impunity. The cancer was sad. The crack smoking, not so much.

[Peanut]

He was also a wife-beater. I have sympathy for his family, as i assume there is still a complicated grief when your abusive, racist, addict Dad/husband dies. My sympathy for Rob Ford is negligible, however.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Peanut

He was also a wife-beater. I have sympathy for his family, as i assume there is still a complicated grief when your abusive, racist, addict Dad/husband dies. My sympathy for Rob Ford is negligible, however.

Wow, that's news to me and I thought I followed everything Rob Ford over the years. Was this common knowledge and confirmed?

I guess maybe all the crack smoking and public hilarity pushed it from the headlines.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Peanut

He was also a wife-beater. I have sympathy for his family, as i assume there is still a complicated grief when your abusive, racist, addict Dad/husband dies. My sympathy for Rob Ford is negligible, however.

Huh, all I can see is two domestic incidences, one that was focused around Fords wife in a fare dispute with a cabbie. And one where the charges against Ford were withdrawn because of inconsistent statements by his wife over the incident.

I'm no supporter of Rob Ford, I think the guy needed serious help, but a lot of the allegations published by the Star, like calling Trudeau a fag and making racist remarks about the Toronto Argo football team. And even the domestic assualt allegations seem to have a fictional quality to him.

Basically it was like


Rob Ford charged with domestic assault

Rob Ford charges withdrawn due to inconsistancies in wife's statement


Rob Ford calls Justin Trudeau F$G in crack video

Well we think he probably thought it


The Star is a rag with an axe to grind.

[Resolute 14]

The Toronto Star has long been run by people who are basically left wing versions of Ezra Levant, so no surprise there.

[afc wimbledon]

Crack doesn't magically make you an ar******, if your an ar** on crack you'll still be one if your as clean as Mother Theresa.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Huh, all I can see is two domestic incidences, one that was focused around Fords wife in a fare dispute with a cabbie. And one where the charges against Ford were withdrawn because of inconsistent statements by his wife over the incident.

I'm no supporter of Rob Ford, I think the guy needed serious help, but a lot of the allegations published by the Star, like calling Trudeau a fag and making racist remarks about the Toronto Argo football team. And even the domestic assualt allegations seem to have a fictional quality to him.

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

The Toronto Star has long been run by people who are basically left wing versions of Ezra Levant, so no surprise there.

It was from a tell-all book by Rob Ford's original Chief of Staff, Mark Towhey

An excerpt was published in Macleans:

At 3:13, out of nowhere, Renata starts yelling again in the background—I mean, really shouting.
Renata: “Shut the f–k up!”
Rob: “Don’t put your hands on me! Don’t grab my phone!”
I’m straining to hear anything that sounds like a blow, a push or a shove. I unlock my iPhone again, ready to call 911.
Rob: “Don’t touch me!”
Renata: “I’ll call the cops. Stay away from me! Get the hell out of my way. Get out!”
Rob: “Call 911! Or Dougie*********** *******.”
Whoa, what? Suddenly Renata is talking to me, speaking over Rob as he holds the phone. “Mark, can you please get Rob out of the house?” she pleads.
I ask Rob to back off, leave Renata alone. I ask him to go to another room so he and I can talk. I’m keeping my voice low, slow, soothing. I hear him moving, I think, downstairs. Renata’s voice disappears and I hear a door close.
Rob is mumbling something I can’t make out, so I keep talking. I tell him I can send him a car, take him to a hotel. “You can get a good night’s sleep,” I say. “You don’t have to fight anymore. How about it?”
It’s now 3:23. Rob unleashes a blast of words at hyper-speed. I can only make out a few words here and there.
“ . . . doobies  . . . ”
“I smoked that s–t . . .”
“I sold that s–t . . .”
“ . . . heroin . . .”

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/r...usive-excerpt/

So you can't blame this one on The Star.